Posted on 08/15/2004 3:00:17 PM PDT by gilliam
Did your husband have a leisure suit?
OH GOD - reliving leisure suits and Viet Nam. Someone wake me from this nightmare.
And, I will be watching..........again!
Wasn't Nixon reelected in '72?
I've already done the same (to those who'd be receptive)....I have rat friends...not going to call them.... : )
That was the rationale the VVAW used when considering whether to assassinate US senators. Knowing that, a chill ran up my spine as I watched that part of the debate.
This seems like a good place to put this in. Was channel surfing a few munutes ago. As the channel crossed MSNBC, I caught Chris call O'Neill "That stinky-poo from Texas"
I kid you not.
Yup And Im hoping for a similar backlash in 04
Sheesh Libs are such children
"At the core of modern liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ."
(PJ O'Rourke)
Not then. He was in uniform.
Kuck Ferry. Too funny. Brilliant. Did you make that up? That should be everywhere. Doesn't violate rules, but gets the point across.
"MR. CAVETT: We're back, and two of the charges against John Kerry at the moment, that I remember, are why didn't he leave when war crimes were being committed in front of him –
MR. O'NEILL: Mr. Cavett –
MR. CAVETT: I'm going to finish this sentence.
– and your attitude changed because of your political ambitions. Those are two things that were mentioned.
MR. KERRY: Well, I hardly think the second really merits that much discussion – I'm not sure – that much discussion or consideration.
The fact of the matter is that the members of Coastal Division 11 and Coastal Division 13 when I was in Vietnam were fighting the policy very, very hard, to the point that many of the members were refusing to carry out orders on some of their missions; to the point where the crews started to in fact mutiny, say, "I would not go back on the rivers again;" the point where my commanding officer was relieved of duty because he pressed our objections to what we were doing with the captain in command of the entire operation.
MR. CAVETT: The man above you was relieved of duty?
MR. KERRY: That is correct. The man above me was finally relieved of duty.
To the point that we had a continual rotation going on of new officers coming from the divisions that were not in this to try and replenish our spirit. To the point that the commanding admiral of all forces in Vietnam and General Abrams himself flew us to Saigon – completely stopped the war, put us in an airplane, we put on our khakis and went up there and were briefed for an entire day and told how what we were doing was writing Navy legends and how we were writing a new kind of history in the war, and so on and so on. And then we returned to go back into the rivers to do the same thing.
The fact of the matter remains that after I received my third wound, I was told that I could return to the United States. I deliberated for about two weeks because there was a very difficult decision in whether or not you leave your friends because you have an opportunity to go, but I finally made the decision to go back and did leave of my own volition because I felt that I could do more against he war back here. And when I got back here, I was serving as an aide to an admiral in New York City, and I wrote a letter through him requesting that I be released from the Navy early because of my opposition, and I was granted that release, and I have been working against the war ever since then.
So I don't think that it's a question of principles that change or of ideals or the fact that we didn't try to fight it over there. That's just not true at all. We did."
Be careful there..John O'Neill, being nervous, (and not a liar) demonstrated several of those hand-to-face movements..he scratched his head, touched his nose, etc. He also looked down a lot.
I am disgusted with Kerry, but he was much more polished than O'Neill as far as body language. (and I'm not talking about the content of his words, just the body language)
The show is being repeated two more times tonight. (Evening and late night)
I'm from the NE also --- MA, in fact --- land of rotarys and fried clams. Now I'm in NJ -- another whole kettle of fish (LOL!)---but I'm still conservative, in spite of my surroundings!
You are a hero in your own right. I would die living in such a left-wing state, especially Ma.
I'm an escapee myself.
Most of the people in the audience are hippy anti-war people there to support Kerry. This will backfire on him. All the Vietnam Vets will see this and their anger at Kerry will start to surface. Kerry is a disgrace to this country.
JF'n has had the anger of us vets for a long time. Unfortunately(thanks to the media), the vast majority of Americans are unaware of just how traitorous this guy was/is. It seems like it is coming out a little bit though. Hopefully, that will change some opinions of that sorry b*st*rd.
Question: Is this another one of Kerry's ghost claims? Does this "man above" him have a NAME? Can this at all be confirmed? Is this yet another lie? or, perhaps, DISTORTION of reality?
replaying...............NOW
bump!
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