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McGreevy (not gay, bi-) Scandal: Homosexuality as the Last Refuge of Scoundrels [FR Mention]
Mens Wear Daily ^ | 8/15/2004 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 08/15/2004 1:37:53 PM PDT by Helms

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To: Helms

I wouldn't take too much credence in the talk that McGreevey is bi-sexual, even if he did have a child by his recent wife and one by his former wife.

Rumor around Trenton was that he kept a turkey baster in his bedside drawer. (psyche)


41 posted on 08/15/2004 4:11:55 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: Doctor Raoul
You know only half the bisexuals march in the Gay Pride Parade...

ROTFL

42 posted on 08/15/2004 4:33:26 PM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Helms

McGreevy's behavior as disgusting as it was, is not what disgusted me the most. It was the media reaction to the initial press conference that got me. I watched the locals in NYC on Thursday, and they were falling over themselves in praise of McGreevy's courage for coming out of the closet.And still today on the national scene, I was surfing through Meet the Press and Chris Mathews and on one of these shows only some journalist named Roger Simon was prepared to rip McGreevy. We live in a society with all kinds of entitlements being claimed by some pretty unworthy groups, but the media entitlement given to homosexuals may take the cake. If Bob Packwood would have been a queer, he might still be in office.


43 posted on 08/15/2004 4:34:39 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: driftless
McGreevey is not a scandal-ridden, homosexual congressman. He's a crook who happens to be a homosexual.

No, he's a scandal-ridden, homosexual governor. (Rim shot.)

44 posted on 08/15/2004 4:35:25 PM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Biblebelter

his approval rating in NJ reportedly wnt UP two points since he "outed" himself.


45 posted on 08/15/2004 4:36:13 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: unixfox
I remember someone on another forum posting a quote from the TV series Queer As Folk. Basically, a lesbian in a relationship had sex with a man, and her partner said that she isn't a card-carrying dyke since she had sex with a man. There were much more colorful words in the quote, but I can't post them here.

Now, my question is, how can a man who has TWO children and two marriages to women be considered GAY? Isn't he at least bi?

46 posted on 08/15/2004 4:39:19 PM PDT by rintense (Results matter.)
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To: mrustow

Thanks for the ping.

Liberals can turn a cesspool into a bed of roses, given enough words and public ignorance. This guy takes the cesspool-roses prize.


47 posted on 08/15/2004 5:09:23 PM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: mrustow

Just poking a little fun at those who get a bit full of themselves. Want to see an offensive gay stereotype, watch a gay pride parade. Why do NY Times reporters find Abu Ghrab such a compelling scandal? It's nothing they haven't experienced in the back room of a leather bar in Manhattan.


48 posted on 08/15/2004 5:20:54 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (KERRY IS A POODLE: #1 He's French, #2 He's A Rich Woman's Pet, #3 He Won't Protect You)
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To: rintense
I remember someone on another forum posting a quote from the TV series Queer As Folk. Basically, a lesbian in a relationship had sex with a man, and her partner said that she isn't a card-carrying dyke since she had sex with a man. There were much more colorful words in the quote, but I can't post them here.

That's identity politics at work. In other words, "card-carrying" this or that has more to do with political movements and definitions than with science or human relations.

Now, my question is, how can a man who has TWO children and two marriages to women be considered GAY? Isn't he at least bi?

Certainly, McGreevy is different from, say, Barney Frank. He's defining himself as gay to to paint himself as a victim and to get out of the consequences of his actions. But a lot of people who define themselves as gay or straight are bisexual. It's a tough call, but if you find out that someone's ruling passions are homosexual in orientation, does that make that person gay? If McGreevey "finds out" at some point that he really prefers sex with men, isn't he homosexual?

Granted, I wouldn't take McGreevey's word for anything. He probably is bi more than anything else (the irony is that if he is truly "gay" it makes his marriage more of a lie than if he were strongly attracted to both sexes). But it looks like some gays are holding the others up to too strict a standard by demanding that they be incapable of functioning with the opposite sex. It's ironic that the gay movement wants to overturn the standards of straight society only to impose its own rigid definitions on people. And it's not true to history. Oscar Wilde and Andre Gide, for example, had wives and children, and have become the great icons of gay movements.

"Six Feet Under" on HBO will take a [fictional] look at this question tonight, so those who aren't boycotting or disgusted might take a look.

49 posted on 08/15/2004 5:30:22 PM PDT by x
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To: Helms
So now McGravy jumps to the head of the pack of future Dim presidential hopefuls.

First their was the draft dodging sexual predator.

Second we have the Viet Nam War Criminal.

Third we have the "Gay American".

Omigosh where does that leave Edwards?

50 posted on 08/15/2004 5:36:59 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: NetValue
***WIFE? Pity her. Talk about betrayal....***

Think I will hold my pity for a while. Forget the Gay American - there is other stuff coming and she may be in it up to her smiling blonde derriere. To be female gives her no pass - she was very pro-active in a lot of things....maybe some shady, maybe not.

51 posted on 08/15/2004 5:39:33 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (Y)
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To: Humidston

My guess it is Nicholas Stix. How else would he have known?


52 posted on 08/15/2004 5:51:48 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: SiliconValleyGuy
Thanks for the ping.

Liberals can turn a cesspool into a bed of roses, given enough words and public ignorance. This guy takes the cesspool-roses prize.

Sure thing.

The game can be awfully easy, when you know that the press will act as your own PR machine.

53 posted on 08/15/2004 5:59:09 PM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: Biblebelter

Daniel Patrick Moynihan called it, "Defining Deviancy Down."




54 posted on 08/15/2004 6:01:30 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Wake Up, America!))))
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To: ValerieUSA

Agreed. That's why I added that apology. ;-)


55 posted on 08/15/2004 6:43:28 PM PDT by Humidston (Al Qa'eda are girlie boys.... They hide behind women and children and cover their faces!)
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To: Helms

bttt


56 posted on 08/15/2004 7:32:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: mrustow

Thanks for the ping!


57 posted on 08/15/2004 8:39:18 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Helms
Not gay, Bi

Some days I like Vanilla; some days I like Chocolate.

58 posted on 08/15/2004 8:55:17 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (Unite)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

Just EWWWWWWWW!!!!!


59 posted on 08/15/2004 9:37:54 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (If at first you don't deceive, lie, lie again. -- John Kerry)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Speaking of "defining deviancy down" : I'm reminded of a defining moment in the 80's when Barney Franks was the guest speaker for a DC AIDs fundraiser right after his scandal. He was introduced with a gospel paraphrase - "Let he who hasn't MADE A MISTAKE throw the first stone."

As if shacking up with a call boy, and allowing a boy-brothel to run out of your basement is the same as making a typo!


60 posted on 08/15/2004 10:39:16 PM PDT by pollwatcher (The liberal mind works like a parachute - groundless and drifty.)
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