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Official: Charley's Death Toll to Climb [Stacks Of Bodies at Mobile Home Park]
Yahoo News ^ | 8/14/04 | ALLEN G. BREED,

Posted on 08/14/2004 1:42:49 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: trussell

Joining with tressell in my prayers for those in harms way and for comfort and strength to those remaining and their families.


501 posted on 08/15/2004 8:47:25 AM PDT by crabbie
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To: asgardshill
I'm glad to know the house is in better shape than expected. The garage--ouch. Saw a similar story yesterday where a man had built a garage to withstand 200 mph winds. It housed a Model A Ford firetruck (one of only 2 in existence, and Henry Ford owned the other), another top end vehicle, etc.

The building was completely destroyed. I'm wondering if it was part of the Ford-Edison estates in Ft. Myers.

502 posted on 08/15/2004 9:14:03 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I served in Viet Nam, and we have better hair"----John F'n Kerry campaign platform)
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To: NautiNurse

The garage is a "thing" and can be replaced. Two of her friends in the area were killed - one in a traffic accident while evacuating and the other refused to evacuate and he was found inside his house. The irony is just inescapable - just a bad, horrific scene there.


503 posted on 08/15/2004 9:19:56 AM PDT by asgardshill (The Republican's best weapon lies midway between John Kerry's nose and lower chin.)
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To: asgardshill
Two of her friends in the area were killed - one in a traffic accident while evacuating and the other refused to evacuate and he was found inside his house.

That is a real tragedy, and a terrible irony. Just heard the death toll is 16 confirmed. Friday afternoon, a woman in the Orlando area stepped on a live wire, or a puddle with one nearby.

504 posted on 08/15/2004 9:24:28 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I served in Viet Nam, and we have better hair"----John F'n Kerry campaign platform)
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To: NautiNurse

Prayer bump for everyone in West Florida...the hurricane victims, the EMT's, the police and sheriff's crews, the firemen, Coast Guard, power company workers, hospital personnel, funeral directors--everyone involved in the cleanup and recovery.

Yes, I'm even praying for the insurance company adjusters.


505 posted on 08/15/2004 12:05:20 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: floriduh voter
I was wondering why can't foolish people be escorted out instead of giving them their deadly choice

I look at it kind of like seat belts. We would be foolish not to buckle up but the government should not be able to come in and force adults to comply.

It would be interesting to know why most stayed. Did they not really know what damage could occur? You hear it but until you have been thru it, it doesn't always "sink in" . I'm thinking a lot were just afaid to leave their home. A loss of control. Maybe reassurances that if they leave they will not be stopped from coming back after the storm passed might help in the future. I don't know.

506 posted on 08/15/2004 3:03:34 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

Some of us who live in Florida have given reasons on this thread why people (including us at times) do not always pack up. Quick re-cap for those who didn't read the thread.

1. Shelters do not allow animals, many people won't leave them.
2. It's expensive, dangerous, and very stressful to bug out especially when the vast majority of the time the hurricane does not hit your area.
3. Some people will not leave simply because if they do it's days before they are let back into their homes if a hurricane does hit. If they stay, they can possibly salvage what's left of their belongings.
4. At times there is no place to go. If a storm is projected to hit my area (Homestead), I can't go the keys, Miami is a target if I am. Those are my two largest areas. The storm can track either west or north once it hits. Who says which direction it will go? There is a good chance, as what happened to people that fled to Orlando, that you will flee right into the storm.
5. Because of upgrades in building requirements, hurricane shutters and windows, etc. Most homes in S. Florida and those who adopted Dade County building standards believe their home can withstand the force of a major hurricane.

Now, with this all said, anyone who decides to ride out a storm in a trailor has more faith than I'll ever have. Those who also live in areas that are right on the water and will face storm surges of 10+ft need to, and usually do, leave.


507 posted on 08/15/2004 4:02:56 PM PDT by Brytani (A changing mind is a terrible thing to waste - Vote John Kerry)
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To: Brytani

Thanks. I had not seen this. I wouldn't stay in a mobile home either but I've been thru #3 and it's a real problem. I had not thought about pets but this could be a real factor with the elderly. Things to think about, huh?


508 posted on 08/15/2004 4:07:58 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
The death toll is holding at 16 and they refuse to release an updated total which leads me to believe there are more. It's mighty hot down there too over 100 at the moment. It was hot here today.

I'm sufficiently still scared and we didn't get much weather, just a spooky white sky in Tampa Bay.

509 posted on 08/15/2004 4:29:08 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org and www.jangovan.com PLEEEZ HELP JAN GOVAN)
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To: floriduh voter

You know FV that is what seems weird to me. Usually we would be overwhelmed with details and media everywhere. I remember with Andrew that coverage seemed 24/7. Is it a lot worse (hard to imagine) than we know or what's going on?


510 posted on 08/15/2004 4:32:23 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg
The National Guard is there guarding property - residential and businesses. We are seeing a lot of devastation on the local channels. They're saying that it could have been a lot worse considering it was a Cat 4. Maybe they're right. It was bad enough for me. The President and Jeb were there together today. Dubya was patting people on the back, etc. I'm sure they were all screened before they met him. I looked like they put up a fence between the President and the people who were standing around.

Apparently, they've searched through all the mobile home parks today.

511 posted on 08/15/2004 4:44:18 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org and www.jangovan.com PLEEEZ HELP JAN GOVAN)
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To: CindyDawg

And something most people will not think about unless faced with the weather service telling them a catagory 3+ hurricane is heading their way.


512 posted on 08/15/2004 4:47:02 PM PDT by Brytani (A changing mind is a terrible thing to waste - Vote John Kerry)
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To: NautiNurse; Howlin

it looks like whomever FNC had on the night it hit (by phone) - saying they were at "hospital official" from charlotte county, and that there were 150 dead - was some kind of psycho caller. i haven't heard any other story about the death toll being that high.


513 posted on 08/15/2004 4:49:31 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Sorry to be so late responding to your question, Pikachu_Dad. I guess you're asking why I doubted that there were really deputies standing guard over stacks of bodies. It didn't sound plausible. For one thing, we don't just stack human bodies like cordwood in this country, because we respect the dead.


514 posted on 08/15/2004 6:36:39 PM PDT by solzhenitsyn ("Live Not By Lies")
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To: dukeman

Exactly!!!


515 posted on 08/15/2004 10:17:22 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: mewzilla

Unfortunately, sometimes the elderly are very stubborn about leaving their homes. My own grandmother refused to leave her apartment when the house caught fire. She had to be carried or escorted out by firemen.


516 posted on 08/16/2004 5:59:45 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is STILL in control, even if Bush loses in 2004!)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

What always amazes me is that rows and rows of trailers can be torn apart but there are always some that look as though they sustained little or no damage.


517 posted on 08/16/2004 6:02:54 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is STILL in control, even if Bush loses in 2004!)
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To: Dianna

Where do you live? Its been cool here too.


518 posted on 08/16/2004 7:35:43 AM PDT by RockinRight (Liberalism IS the status quo)
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To: All
There are thousands and thousands that are still without Power, Water, Phone service, and @ 80%+ of the gas stations are closed(No power & Gas), Many Wal-Mart/Pubix food stores are empty(NO Water, Or ICE)....The temp's are in the mid-90's(Hot)... S.O.S. !!!

I have a suggestion to the GOP Party (HQ) of Orlando. Get Ice and Water and set-up a emergency distribution of these needed items at your HQ and inform the Press (Via Radio), Please inform somebody in charge.

It was bad, and many roofs were torn-apart where I live on the east side of Orlando (Winter Park)...

People need ICE and WATER , ASAP !!!
519 posted on 08/16/2004 10:05:16 AM PDT by Orlando (www.mensnewsdaily.com, www.mensactivism.org (Support Fathers/Veteran Rights)
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To: Orlando
#519..Our church just responded yesterday (Sunday) to an emergency request from Sebring, Florida for ice.

We gathered together hundreds of lbs. of ice, and one of our members trucked it over.

Call your churches....they know how to get things moving.

520 posted on 08/16/2004 10:14:44 AM PDT by Guenevere
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