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Official: Charley's Death Toll to Climb [Stacks Of Bodies at Mobile Home Park]
Yahoo News ^ | 8/14/04 | ALLEN G. BREED,

Posted on 08/14/2004 1:42:49 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: kenth
Has anyone said yet,

"It's Bush's [Jeb Bush's] fault" ?

Seriously. I expect by Monday Micheal Moore and Bill Maher et al will be "exposing" how Jeb was responsible (wasted 7 minutes when he heard about it; wanted to help get the Florida Bin Laden's out of the state first; more deaths mean more $ for his familiy's oil buddies because hearses get low gas-mileage; mean Republicans love carnage; yadayada.)

341 posted on 08/14/2004 8:08:31 AM PDT by gg188
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To: kattracks

Known Damage Caused By Hurricane Charley

POSTED: 7:47 PM EDT August 13, 2004
UPDATED: 9:54 PM EDT August 13, 2004

Here's a county-by-county list of damage as reported by officials and on-the-scene reporters.

CHARLOTTE:
-- Portions of roof ripped off, windows broken at Deep Creek Rehab and Nursing Center in Port Charlotte, according to administrator. No injuries.
-- Roof collapse at Fire Station No. 12.
-- Numerous trailer homes destroyed.
-- At Charlotte County Airport, winds tore apart small planes and blew out the windows of a sheriff's deputy's car. Hangers were collapsed and roofs were torn off buildings. The only building that did not suffer major damage was the Airport Authority building.
-- The roof of the county's emergency operations center in Punta Gorda also blew off.

COLLIER:
-- Officials said a "good portion" of the county was without power and there was some flooding. No serious reports of damage.

DESOTO:
-- Roof blown off at Turner Agri-Civic Center, a hurricane shelter where 1,200 people had gathered; no known injuries.
-- Large sections of U.S. 17 are peppered with down utility poles; some parts of the road completely blocked.

GLADES COUNTY:
-- Rural county on west side of Lake Okeechobee reported sporadic downed power lines, minor roof damage, trees down. Approximately 35 percent of the county without power.

HARDEE:
-- Entire county without power.

HIGHLANDS:
-- Several power lines down north of Sebring.
-- Tree fell through roof of apartment building in Sebring, injuries unknown

HILLSBOROUGH:
-- No damage reported, no power loss.

LEE:
-- Downed power lines, numerous downed trees and some roofs torn off by high wind.
-- A tornado touched down in southwest Cape Coral, damage still being assessed.
-- Cape Coral city hall sustained enough damage that employees hunkered down there and had to relocate to other parts of the building.
-- Cape Coral hospital sustained significant damage to parts of its roof, windows and doors. There were no injuries reported.
-- At least 118,000 customers were without power.
-- Eyewitness video showed the roof of a Fort Myers post office ripped off. Officials say no one was in the building.
-- One confirmed fatality in North Fort Myers, no further details.

MONROE COUNTY:
-- The Islander Resort on Islamorada suffered minor roof damage, but it was open Friday.
-- A sailboat separated from its mooring and its mast struck a main electrical transmission line, causing temporary power outages in parts of the lower Keys.
-- Minor street flooding reported.

PINELLAS:
-- No damage reported, no power loss.

POLK:
-- Amateur radio operator reports several mobile homes destroyed


342 posted on 08/14/2004 8:08:40 AM PDT by FReepaholic (My other tagline is hilarious.)
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To: gg188

I'm sure some lefty is thinking it. Global warming. Anti-environment GW. That sort of thing.

Though, I did see a post on DU where someone was trying to say that it was karma for Floridians because they stole the election. Those DU'ers are fine people, aren't they?


343 posted on 08/14/2004 8:12:17 AM PDT by kenth
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To: kattracks
"I feel like the biggest fool," said Robert Angel of Tarpon Springs, who sought safety in a motel. "I spent hundreds of dollars to be in the center of a hurricane. Our home is safe, but now I'm in danger."

It's not YOUR fault the storm changed track, buddy.

344 posted on 08/14/2004 8:21:30 AM PDT by agrace
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To: BunnySlippers
I'm sorry, I thought you were asking why the people on that one particular post were talking about the storm. Please excuse me but I did not mean to be rude. I just meant that if that post is about the storm, it doesn't exclude anyone, but those of us with relatives in the path of the storm are concerned about them. Not meaning to keep anyone out but there are severe problems going on right now. In the Orlando area people have been told they may not have electricity for days yet. My daughter said she heard it might be a week but I hope that is an exaggeration. Anyway, I was certainly not suggesting that you not be free to say whatever you want. Peace to you.
345 posted on 08/14/2004 8:22:56 AM PDT by mean lunch lady (Sometimes- the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.)
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To: kenth
Speaking of global warming, and in other non-Charley-related weather news, the deep South is having record low temps. In early August lows are in the 50's (slightly north I believe 40's.)

August nights in the deep South usually mean LOWS of, say, 80.

I don't supposed they will just DROP this "global warming" fantasy?...I didn't think so.

346 posted on 08/14/2004 8:25:31 AM PDT by gg188
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To: gg188

I recently saw a cool bumper sticker that said "Stop Global Whining" LOL


347 posted on 08/14/2004 8:27:46 AM PDT by mean lunch lady (Sometimes- the light at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming train.)
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To: oceanview
President Bush should certainly give it a few days, but at some point, it would be foolish and political suicide not to go.

A peek into the Democrat strategy session.

+++ Carville sits on the edge of the chair and glances around to all attendees. McCullough laughs nervously and Ickes smirks. "Okay," James begins, "we've got a major hurricane here, what can we do with it?"

"First," McCullough pipes up, having waited all day for this moment, "the hurrican was predicted to hit Tampa direct and it didn't. Instead, it hit elsewhere where they weren't quite prepared. That's dynamite."

Ickes turns to McCullough with a sneer on his face. "And we're supposed to slam the President because a hurricane changed course?"

McCullough sniffed. He hated when Ickes acted like this.

"Global warming,Harold," Terry said, drawing out his explanation that the attendees can admire its brilliance. "Global warming kept us from properly predicting the course of the hurricane. If the Bush administration had funded the Kyoto treaty as he should we'd have been able to predict exactly where this hurricane is going." Terry stopped to allow the attendees admire his brilliance.

"I don't think that's going to fly," Ickes said.

"Why not?" Carville boomed. "I bet we could find some meterologist wanting a few bucks, send him on 60 Minutes, have him throw out a whole bunch of mush about all the recent hurricane activity, the inability to predict them, all because of global warming. I say it's worth a try."

Ickes sniffed and McCullough smiled.

"What else?" Carville prompted.

"Well of course there's the problems with clean up," Harold offered. "We can find a couple of home owners that haven't gotten clean water and here's it's three days after the storm. Terry, you still have some of those idiot old folks down there from the last election? The ones that went on TV and testified that they'd mistakenly voted for Buchanan?"

Terry nodded. The Democrats had a sparkling and recently updated database of anti-Bush shills.

"Get them on the line. Tell them to look all disheveled and disoriented. Have one of the local stations go out and interview them, say day after tomorrow. Have them complain about lack of water and food. Tell them to complain about all their calls to FEMA were ignored. "

Terry took notes and nodded his head. He hated taking orders from Ickes but he knew this was a good idea and would make good copy. Terry also noted to call 60 Minutes and tell them about the local interview. Ickes always forgot little details like that."

"Harold," James said, pleased at the political hay being made during this session, "how about we get a Democrat shill, how about Susan Estrich? Get her on CNN complaining that the country needs money to take care of our own inner turmoil, not spending it on that mess in Iraq. Terry, I'm thinking, how about we float a notion that many of Florida's polling places were harmed, that flood waters might have hit the new voting machines? If we float the idea now we might be able to use it during a close election."

All attendees remained silent. Here was a Bush as Governor and one as President.

"We need to do some more thinking," Ickes said. "Let's meet back here at 9 pm tonight. Meanwhile, keep the thinking cap on. We need ammunition."

"That's it," Carville said, slapping his knees. "Meet back here at 9 pm and ask around, put on the thinking cap. We need to beat the hell out of this and we best get started right away."

348 posted on 08/14/2004 8:27:58 AM PDT by Fishtalk (Once a liberal and victim of all the spin. Ask me to interpret.)
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To: mean lunch lady
I appreciate the update. I have been sitting here since 4am watching the devastation on TV. And watching Jeb talking now.

Earlier, someone was blasting people from out of state for commenting about the storm on this thread. I thought it inappropraite.

I hope for the best in Florida.

349 posted on 08/14/2004 8:29:57 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Must get moose and squirrel ... B. Badanov)
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To: bwteim

I notice that people without transportation or with limited mobility could request help in evacuating, too.


350 posted on 08/14/2004 8:32:06 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: tscislaw

http://www.mysanibel.com/

Latest info from Sanibel. Just watched a news conference from Sanibel, and asked that fools would quit launching boats to visit the island. Police should just presume that visitors on the island without POLICE uniforms are looters, and shoot on sight. A state of emergency has been declared.


351 posted on 08/14/2004 8:33:44 AM PDT by texas booster (Make a resolution to better yourself and your community in '04 - vote Republican!)
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To: familyop

I understand its Myrtle Beach, SC first....then outer banks of NC...fortunately for me I am in Mtns..


352 posted on 08/14/2004 8:34:11 AM PDT by Kackikat (,Kerry=the counterfeit, GWBush is the real deal!)
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To: tutstar
they literally don't have the money to go anywhere else.

Wouldn't land be more expensive near the coastal areas and beaches than it would be further inland? I can see owing a mobile home near the beach but maybe as a second home or with some place to go when the storms come. In some areas of the country there aren't tornadoes or hurricanes and it's as safe living in a mobile home as anything else.

353 posted on 08/14/2004 8:36:17 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Fishtalk

CNN was running a crawl - President Bush will visit Florida tomorrow.


354 posted on 08/14/2004 8:38:37 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: BunnySlippers

I agree with you that it's inappropriate to criticize people for showing an interest in other areas. Most people have friends, relatives or at least acquiantances who have lived in Florida or visited at some time and would also be interested even if they are not living in the area. It is truly strange here when they close the theme parks (as they did yesterday) or waive the tolls on the Turnpike. It's spooky because it's so rare. If you ever visit here and see them doing either of those things, take it cereally (sp on purpose).


355 posted on 08/14/2004 8:40:50 AM PDT by mean lunch lady (I'm from Flori-duh, Land of the Hanging Chad...)
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To: oceanview

Poor people...


356 posted on 08/14/2004 8:41:05 AM PDT by txhurl
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To: kattracks
A retired colleague of mine has a winter home at Court Side Landings Circle, Punta Gorda. I haven't seen him in a few years. I hope he was up north at this time and that his house was not flattened
357 posted on 08/14/2004 8:43:04 AM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed. Pray for our own souls to receive the grace of a happy)
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To: Mercat

This Florida Freeper got very lucky in the last hours with the forecast prediction and actual path. Our local weatherman did a much better job than the weather channel in guiding us Floridians through the storm. My area was predicted to have sustained winds inland of 90 miles.hr and we actually ended us with very low winds. Not as much debris in the yard as after a summer severe afternoon thunderstorm. I'm in Yippee status but am concerned for the rest of the states citizens. Heads Up, storms are forming again in the waters. We ain't out of the woods yet this season.


358 posted on 08/14/2004 8:54:16 AM PDT by Rapunzel (Never put off a kindess till tomorrow for it may never come)
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To: ntnychik

Ping


359 posted on 08/14/2004 8:55:29 AM PDT by ntnychik
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To: dixie sass
This storm was predicted to come ashore as a cat 2 at the most. No one forsaw the storm making the turn nor the fact that it would increase in strength.

I made this point yesterday on another thread, and I will make it again today. Hurricanes are UNPREDICTABLE...you can have access to all the meteorological experts and computer technology in the world, and a hurricane can STILL do the UNEXPECTED. The best advice? If you're in hurricane country, and there's one headed your way...leave, and get as far away as you can. Better to be a LIVE CHICKEN than a DEAD DUCK. Many took the advice of the media yesterday, played it a little too close to the vest, and paid with their lives.

360 posted on 08/14/2004 8:55:30 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Under the personal care of the Great Physician...full coverage.)
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