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Official: Charley's Death Toll to Climb [Stacks Of Bodies at Mobile Home Park]
Yahoo News ^ | 8/14/04 | ALLEN G. BREED,

Posted on 08/14/2004 1:42:49 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: LBelle
you don't know how relieved I am to hear that you don't have a cousin in Islamorada!

Hmm I guess i should warn anyone in the Myrtle Beach area to watch out then. MY Brother is on his way to Myrtle today for the Dupont World Amatuer Golf Tournament. IN the last ten years he has brought at least 5 TS's or Hurricanes into the area with him. LOL

It is a standing joke in our family. We find out when the Dupont is and when MY Brother is going up there, and then pencil in that the area will have a Storm of some type right before or during that week.

241 posted on 08/14/2004 6:32:46 AM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I have read the posts of people here saying they were not told to evacuate the area, loved ones were not told to evacuate. The storm was supposed to go 150 miles north.

We've lived in Florida for 30 years, and a few of those years were spent in a mobile home, and others were spent in a coastal area. Mobile homes have always -- always -- been the first to be warned to evacuate if a storm is anywhere in the vicinity.

After mobile homes, those living in coastal areas are told to leave. We, family and friends have been through so many evacuations/preparations that we can't even count. We may b--ch and grumble after the storm passes, but no one I know is so stupid as to wait and see before making a decision.

If Andrew's devastation didn't teach people how storms can make sudden moves, then nothing can -- and to suggest that governments are responsible for making decisions for people is to advocate the nanny state.

The loss of life is tragic, but it was avoidable.

242 posted on 08/14/2004 6:34:14 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: asgardshill
I'm reserving my pity for myself and my cat - I'm going to be getting new houseguests (sis and her traveling menagerie) for a month or two until her place is back up to snuff :)

Thank you for the lightening up this tragic day - menagerie - LOL.

243 posted on 08/14/2004 6:34:26 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: The_Victor
President Bush declared a major disaster in Florida two hours after the hurricane made landfall.

The media is trying to spin this as a political move by President Bush.

244 posted on 08/14/2004 6:34:45 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: The Duke

I haven't heard anything about the damage on Boca Grande (Gasparilla Island). Do you or anyone have any info?


245 posted on 08/14/2004 6:35:03 AM PDT by Final Authority
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To: commish

Captiva and Sanibel...water not safe to drink and do not turn on generators. (crews working on the grid)

Captiva has been split into...a new 400 yard wide pass has been created.


246 posted on 08/14/2004 6:35:44 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
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To: Rome2000

"I tied it(boat) up real good and put out some fenders but I was just kidding myself about it being safe if we had a direct hit."

Hopefully your boat is still intact. Everytime I see the power of wind and water it amazes me to no end. Mother Nature is mind boggling. Unfortunetly for many boat owners I bet those ropes snapped like cheap sewing thread.


247 posted on 08/14/2004 6:35:48 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: kattracks

I haven't read through the thread yet, but does anyone know of any damage in Venice, just a few miles to the north? Specifically the Plantations? My mother lives there and has many elderly friends who stayed there. My mother is here in Indiana at the moment so she was out of harms way.


248 posted on 08/14/2004 6:35:49 AM PDT by lupie
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To: Howlin

Moderators should just add an "unconfirmed" tag and/or move the post to discussion when major unconfirmed breaking news is reported that is by it's very nature unconfirmed. Otherwise the strength of FR is diluted.

Apparently the poster was trying to add a video report to the post when he was banned. I imagine that blogs will eventually overtake FR because of anal moderators.


249 posted on 08/14/2004 6:36:05 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Quilla

I don't remember. We had the news on nonstop cause we're in Jax in NE FL. I know they told Pinellas county and N of there in areas which would receive surge but I don't know about Punta. The storm track changed by an hour, iow, we were supposed to have the eye pass over us 'but' when it changed track, it passed to the south of us by an hour and went over St. Augustine & Daytona Beach before going back to sea. That may not seem like a very big difference but for us we had low level winds and rain compared to the 75-90 mph winds plus possible tornadoes they had been telling us to prepare for.


250 posted on 08/14/2004 6:36:12 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Be part of the solution not part of the problem!)
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To: kattracks

Realize it is a long way out, but just noticed that NHC has TD 5 tracking right along the same path as Charley south of Cuba on thier 5 day forecast.


251 posted on 08/14/2004 6:36:56 AM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: LBelle

It's a good idea to get out of there early. Even on "normal" days, a simple accident on Rt. 1 make movement in/out of the Key impossible. If this thing looks like it's going to get close to us (which it does) you might want to start going to see Grandma early in the week!!!


252 posted on 08/14/2004 6:37:34 AM PDT by Brytani (Stop, hey, what's that sound, it's just John Kerry flip-flopping around!!!)
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To: asgardshill
...I know for a fact that her 4 cats are safe because she never goes anywhere without them. I'm reserving my pity for myself and my cat - I'm going to be getting new houseguests (sis and her traveling menagerie) for a month or two

Being a person owned by cats myself, I can empathize with what you are facing. A cat who is used to being the only kitty suddenly having to share can make life miserable for all. Hopefully they already know each other.

I had a vet actually prescribe Elevil to a Bombay who wouldn't play nice with the others [didn't work]. What was more effective was to bell the 'mean' cat so that the others at least knew he was coming.
253 posted on 08/14/2004 6:38:55 AM PDT by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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To: kattracks
The media is trying to spin this as a political move by President Bush.

I distictly remember the laeftist press reports of the poor storm victims blaminmg Bush. But, I though the president had waited several days before acting. Pre-FR days, so I was still getting my news from ABCNBCCBS.

254 posted on 08/14/2004 6:40:06 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: commish
"Hmm I guess i should warn anyone in the Myrtle Beach area to watch out then. MY Brother is on his way to Myrtle today for the Dupont World Amatuer Golf Tournament. IN the last ten years he has brought at least 5 TS's or Hurricanes into the area with him. LOL"

Wish I had known this before booking my vacation to Myrtle Beach :-) Was suppose to leave this morning. Hoping to leave tomorrow...

255 posted on 08/14/2004 6:40:12 AM PDT by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: solzhenitsyn

Well I think it does sound crude to have stacked them but we don't know what the area is like either.There is bound to be tons of debri, electrical lines down may not be a problem if the power is out there. If there are that many dead (just read min. 60) there may not be a large area to lay them out individually.


256 posted on 08/14/2004 6:40:20 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Be part of the solution not part of the problem!)
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To: Brytani

right now Grandma is without power from Charley's visit. She is in Palm Coast. No other damage, thankfully. My husband thinks I am being hysterical, but that one feeder band we got late Thursday/ early Friday convinced me that I don't want to experience a hurricane, even in my strong house. My wild and crazy adrenaline days are over.


257 posted on 08/14/2004 6:41:13 AM PDT by LBelle
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To: kattracks
"The death toll from Hurricane Charley rose early Saturday"

Prayers for all.

258 posted on 08/14/2004 6:41:22 AM PDT by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans Bush/Cheney '04)
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To: Mo1; Howlin
Who is this ditz on FNC saying "It looks like a WAR ZONE."

NO, IT DOESN'T!!

IT LOOKS LIKE A CAT4 HURRICANE JUST CAME THROUGH THERE!............

259 posted on 08/14/2004 6:42:08 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: SunnySide

The one time I've left (hurricane Floyd that didn't hit us but looked awful) I packed up both dogs, 5 cats and two birds and headed to my parents house N. of me.

When we went through the un-named storm and the one that hit us in 1999 (can't remeber the name of it to save my life) I kept the dogs inside until it was safe for them to go out. I figured if they made a mess in the house, it was better then having them die. Unbelievably neither of them even so much as tinkled in the house, though by the time I opened the door to see if it was safe to let them out, their eyes were floating.


260 posted on 08/14/2004 6:42:39 AM PDT by Brytani (Stop, hey, what's that sound, it's just John Kerry flip-flopping around!!!)
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