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Official: Charley's Death Toll to Climb [Stacks Of Bodies at Mobile Home Park]
Yahoo News ^ | 8/14/04 | ALLEN G. BREED,

Posted on 08/14/2004 1:42:49 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Crazieman
160 homes obliterated on Captiva island, 160 more damaged.

I was on Captiva just a few weeks ago on vacation, and marveled at the fact that, on either side of the road one saw nothing but multi-million dollar estates.

These "160 homes" we keep hearing about were not your typical cinderblock homes!

201 posted on 08/14/2004 6:15:52 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: SunnySide

Oh you know the lawyers are already falling over themselves to find people to sue for this.


202 posted on 08/14/2004 6:16:19 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: elfman2
Water was like glass on Thursday night at the Key Largo marina where I keep my boat.

I tied it up real good and put out some fenders but I was just kidding myself about it being safe if we had a direct hit.

Well, theres always next week.

203 posted on 08/14/2004 6:17:09 AM PDT by Rome2000 (The ENEMY for Kerry!!!!!)
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To: walford

My father was an Insurance adjuster specializing Maritime insurance. He was usually the first called by his company to these sites.


204 posted on 08/14/2004 6:17:14 AM PDT by dixie sass (Texas - South Carolina on Steroids)
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To: Brytani

I almost left Thursday morning to go to Palm Coast (just north of Daytona). When I saw that the 18 mile stretch was closed for a wreck, plus looked at the updated forecast, I decided it was more dangerous to try to leave than to stay. We had a good illustration of what can go wrong with the stretch being closed and if the storm coming across the Atlantic looks ugly later in the week, the baby and I are definitely going to see Grandma!


205 posted on 08/14/2004 6:17:22 AM PDT by LBelle
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To: Rebelbase; All

Here's a report that's over an hour old. ...looking for anything newer.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT3+shtml/141203.shtml?
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WTNT33 KNHC 141203
TCPAT3
BULLETIN
HURRICANE CHARLEY INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 21A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
8 AM EDT SAT AUG 14 2004

...CHARLEY NEARS SOUTH CAROLINA COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM NORTH OF ALTAMAHA SOUND
GEORGIA TO THE NORTH CAROLINA/VIRGINIA STATE LINE INCLUDING THE
PAMLICO AND ALBEMARLE SOUNDS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT FROM THE NORTH
CAROLINA/VIRGINIA STATE LINE TO SANDY HOOK NEW JERSEY INCLUDING ALL
OF THE TIDAL POTOMAC...CHESAPEAKE AND DELAWARE BAYS.

A TROPICAL STORM WATCH IS IN EFFECT FROM NORTH OF SANDY HOOK TO THE
MERRIMACK RIVER INCLUDING NEW YORK HARBOR AND LONG ISLAND SOUND.

AT 8 AM EDT...1200Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE CHARLEY WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 32.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 79.7 WEST OR ABOUT 35 MILES
SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF CHARLESTON SOUTH CAROLINA.

CHARLEY IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST NEAR 28 MPH. THIS
MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE WITH AN INCREASE IN FORWARD SPEED
DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS. ON THIS TRACK...CHARLEY WILL MOVE ACROSS
THE MID-ATLANTIC COASTAL STATES TODAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 85 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS MAINLY TO
THE EAST OF THE CENTER.

HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 60 MILES FROM THE
CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 115
MILES MAINLY TO THE EAST OF THE CENTER.

MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY AN RECONNAISSANCE PLANE WAS
993 MB...29.32 INCHES.

STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 6 TO 8 FT IS EXPECTED ALONG PORTIONS OF THE
SOUTH AND NORTH CAROLINA COASTS NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER OF CHARLEY CROSSES THE COAST. STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 3 TO
5 FEET IS EXPECTED IN THE REMAINDER OF THE HURRICANE WARNING AREA.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 3 TO 6 INCHES ARE LIKELY ALONG THE PATH OF
CHARLEY ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE EASTERN UNITED STATES. THESE RAINS
COULD CAUSE LIFE-THREATENING FLASH FLOODS.

ISOLATED TORNADOES ARE POSSIBLE OVER PORTIONS OF COASTAL SOUTH AND
NORTH CAROLINA.

REPEATING THE 8 AM EDT POSITION...32.3 N... 79.7 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHEAST NEAR 28 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS... 85 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 993 MB.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...PLEASE MONITOR
PRODUCTS ISSUED BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER AT
11 AM EDT.

FORECASTER AVILA/LAWRENCE


206 posted on 08/14/2004 6:18:59 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: Crazieman

I heard there were gusts to 173 haven't been up long, just trying to catch up now. I agree when the storm hits land how in the world could you tell the difference.


207 posted on 08/14/2004 6:19:00 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Be part of the solution not part of the problem!)
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To: Rebelbase

Airport: Lots of planes flipped over, landing gears damaged.

Some collapsed buildings in downtown Punta Gorda. Debris all over the streets.

Sanibel Island on curfew between 7:00pm-7:00am.


208 posted on 08/14/2004 6:19:38 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Bush is Hell on liberals and terrorists.)
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To: elfman2

I was surprised at how far behind NHC was yesterday.


209 posted on 08/14/2004 6:19:46 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: kattracks
I know that a lot of people are worried about loved ones, and I have seen a couple people make some stupid comments and get hammered for them -- But I am sorry if I offend anyone but I have to comment on this :
- A man in his mid-20s was killed when a banyon tree fell on him outside his house in Fort Myers, said Ileana LiMarzi, spokeswoman for Lee County Sheriff's Office. The victim stepped outside to smoke a cigarette, others in the house heard a loud crack, then found him under the tree, she said.

How Stupid is this. Going outside to have a SMOKE in a hurricane. I feel sorry for this guys loved ones, but I can't feel any pity for someone this idiotic.

THat said, I do hope everyone who has friends and family they are waiting to hear from gets good news back. MY best friends Parents live between Punta Gorda and Port Charlotte right on the harbor. They livedin a mobile Home Park there and evacuated Friday Morning inland to a friends house. They have checked in this morning and are fine, but have no doubts thier Home is gone as it was within a couple miles of the Mobile Home park that the news is talking about.

MY parents live in a Motor Home in Okeechobee. They are currently with my Cousin in Stuart and are fine, but they have no idea yet what they will find when they return home. While thier home was about 70-80 miles inland from Fort Myers, they do know the power is out and that there are reports of wind and tornado damage in the neighborhood they live in.

Finally, My aunt & Uncle live in Daytona right on 95, about 2 miles from the speedway. They are without power and we have not been able to reach them on thier cell. We are hoping thier home did not take any or much damage as the storm passed through there.

210 posted on 08/14/2004 6:21:05 AM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: kattracks
My sister in Port Charlotte is going to be shopping for a new roof and a new garage. Lots of damage and debris in her neighborhood. But she and all hands are safe (they were in Miami seeing some friends) and are out of harm's way. I know for a fact that her 4 cats are safe because she never goes anywhere without them.

I'm reserving my pity for myself and my cat - I'm going to be getting new houseguests (sis and her traveling menagerie) for a month or two until her place is back up to snuff :)

211 posted on 08/14/2004 6:21:48 AM PDT by asgardshill (The Republican's best weapon lies midway between John Kerry's nose and lower chin.)
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To: 4Freedom

Mark for later reading.


212 posted on 08/14/2004 6:22:35 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: Amelia

Again, thanks for making this a positive thread.


213 posted on 08/14/2004 6:22:47 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: commish

any other friend or relatives in Florida? I want to stay away from them, since you seem to been a weather jinx! :-)

Seriously, I am glad that your loved ones are ok. The family in Daytona will be fine. There isn't much structural damage that way, but few people have power.


214 posted on 08/14/2004 6:23:43 AM PDT by LBelle
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To: asgardshill

Great news!


215 posted on 08/14/2004 6:24:01 AM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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To: tutstar
"I can't believe they stayed. Charley was supposed to hit north of there and by the time it was known where the storm was coming on land it was too late to leave."

Yes, tropical storms and hurricanes are virtually impossible to predict, direction-wise. When they hit land, they slow down, but Florida is a front line, so to speak, of the Gulf. Any such storm that's close to Florida is potentially dangerous to Floridians--especially those in mobile homes or large buildings.
216 posted on 08/14/2004 6:24:53 AM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: miffmole

It's incredibly cold hearted that anyone would imply they 'got what they deserved' I hope that noone does that here. You rely on what the weather experts tell you and decisions made by those in authority in the state. Our forecasters have become very accurate but they still can't know 100% if a storm will turn or how it will act.


217 posted on 08/14/2004 6:24:57 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Be part of the solution not part of the problem!)
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To: kattracks
"It's Andrew all over again," he said. "We believe there's significant loss of life."

President Bush had better move fast to declare a disaster area and get federal assistance in place. His father was slow to move on after Andrew and it hurt his reelection.

218 posted on 08/14/2004 6:26:30 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: Jim Noble
If I lived in a trailer park on the FL coast, and had a hurricane warning for twenty-four hours, I would be long gone. It has nothing to do with the "media", and it's nobody's fault except those who chose to stay behind.

You called it. People need to take responsibility for their own lives. This will sound cold but there's no way I would've allowed my elderly granny to spend sit in her trailer during a hurricaine. I would've forcibly carried her out, put her in a car and gotten out. The sad thing is that some fool will try to blame Jeb Bush for this.

219 posted on 08/14/2004 6:26:51 AM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: Howlin

Yes, it is. She is much tougher than I am and she'll do OK. She's worried about her vintage Bentley (it was in the garage), but that's a thing and not a life and it can be repaired. (I know - I helped with the restoration work on it when she bought it in 1990).


220 posted on 08/14/2004 6:27:08 AM PDT by asgardshill (The Republican's best weapon lies midway between John Kerry's nose and lower chin.)
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