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U.S. Forces Suspend Offensive in Najaf
Yahoo NEWS ^ | 13 Aug 04 | TODD PITMAN

Posted on 08/13/2004 3:49:58 AM PDT by Barney Gumble

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81 posted on 08/13/2004 6:14:11 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Dane
but I will trust our military. They know what they are doing, IMO.

If they are calling the shots
82 posted on 08/13/2004 6:14:34 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Dane

This country has been PCed to death ( including the military )and that includes Bush

If he wasn't this farce of who gets searched at airports wouldn't exist and our southern borders would be sealed and the oil fields would be seized and Muslim communities here in the USA would be interned until the terroir threat world wide is crushed

Bush would be on TV at least MONTHLY with war progress updates

That is why eventually we are going to lose this war and China will rule the world cause they will not have any quams about dealing with the muslims


83 posted on 08/13/2004 6:17:19 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Barney Gumble
I’m not saying that they should attack from the flank. Specifically where and how to attack, is the job of military commanders. The right of people and pundits is to say whether we should attack at all. I’m saying they should attack.

It doesn’t really require an extensive military knowledge to understand a person like Sadr, and that letting him go will only allow him to attack again. It doesn’t take General Patton to realize that since Sadr is already a murderer and terrorist and there is no way he is suddenly going to become compassionate and peaceful through a ceasefire.

So says 5 star General Barney Gumble.

How about this for a deal, Barney. If you have heart surgery, a rank surgery amateur like me will be in the operating room to tell the highly trained surgeon how to do his job.

Seems that you wouldn't mind since you are placing yourself in the Military Commander's warroom.

84 posted on 08/13/2004 6:19:38 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: Poohbah

"Maybe you missed the news--Iraq officially became a sovereign nation again on June 28th."

Oh, now I get it. We beat the butt of a murdering dictator who was tryin to kill us all, destroy his army, but allow the remnants of that army to punch us in the eye, take hostages with impugnity, blow up oil wells, keep our troops there as a punching bag, and give the Iraqis back the freedom they never enjoyed in the first place.

That's brilliant!! Did Colin Powell figure this out himrself or did you help him with it.

"Actually, from your posts, it's a lot more often than "sometimes." Are you outwitted by inanimate objects as often as it appears?"

Hmmm. I think you are trying to insult me. If you had half the brain to go with your comments I might be offended, but I make allowances for the handicapped.


85 posted on 08/13/2004 6:19:46 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: uncbob

Per your reply #83, JMO, you shouldn't take your expertise at the board game Risk into the real world.


86 posted on 08/13/2004 6:22:41 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: Dane

Dane,

What if we spread the word around Najaf that Janet Reno was "enroute"
to "clean up" the mosque ?


87 posted on 08/13/2004 6:27:16 AM PDT by musicman
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To: Dane

I'm with you.....


88 posted on 08/13/2004 6:30:57 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Dane
How about this for a deal, Barney. If you have heart surgery, a rank surgery amateur like me will be in the operating room to tell the highly trained surgeon how to do his job.

You keep ducking my point. You think I need to be a military commander to offer an opinion on general policy….mostly because it differs from Bush’s. I’m not saying how they should attack, but just that should instead of wallowing in yet another ceasefire. You make the medical analogy: Well if someone falls and breaks their leg, I don’t need to be a doctor to see that they need to go to surgery and then have a cast put on the leg. I’m not telling the doctor how to put a cast on, but if the hospital sent the guy away without a cast, I’m going to question it, and I don’t need to be a doctor to do so. Understand my point?

89 posted on 08/13/2004 6:37:28 AM PDT by Barney Gumble ("There are three types of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics." -- Mark Twain)
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To: Jmouse007

Men, I'm gonna have to cease and desist from watching any news coverage of this latest PC battle. Serious, I just can't take it anymore. I want to go to sleep tonight and dream. In this dream, there will emerge a Marine heavy weapons platoon commander, a true renegade that has made up his mind to sacrifice his career and say @#$$-it. Assembles about 48 hard chargers, armed to the teeth, and charge this &%^-$#@$# Mosque wearing N Vision,under the cover of darkness. Wiping out these vermin, once and for all.

The timid might say, yea and get men killed, well, by letting the situation fester, it will cost more lives down the line. Its only a dream right? %$#%-em, I can't deal with this bull- anymore. We can't do nothing right anymore.It really is painful. I'm going fishing and will try to think of how it was before PC dominated our political lives.I wonder if "Cesty" Puller was the tactical commander over there what he would think of this PC war fighting. PS, Amber Frey must've had some good #$%^%!


90 posted on 08/13/2004 6:38:48 AM PDT by Atlanta ( Be the hammer or the anvil...)
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To: Barney Gumble

There should be NO TERMS except the following

Immediate and UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER


91 posted on 08/13/2004 6:39:16 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (Good night Chesty, wherever you may be.)
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To: Jmouse007

Men, I'm gonna have to cease and desist from watching any news coverage of this latest PC battle. Serious, I just can't take it anymore. I want to go to sleep tonight and dream. In this dream, there will emerge a Marine heavy weapons platoon commander, a true renegade that has made up his mind to sacrifice his career and say ....-it. Assembles about 48 hard chargers, armed to the teeth, and assaults this ...-.... Mosque wearing N Vision,under the cover of darkness. Wiping out these vermin, once and for all.

The timid might say, yea and get men killed, well, by letting the situation fester, it will cost more lives down the line. Its only a dream right? ....-em, I can't deal with this bull- anymore. We can't do nothing right anymore.It really is painful. I'm going fishing and will try to think of how it was before PC dominated our political lives.I wonder if "Cesty" Puller was the tactical commander over there what he would think of this PC war fighting. PS, Amber Frey must've had some good .....!


92 posted on 08/13/2004 6:40:52 AM PDT by Atlanta ( Be the hammer or the anvil...)
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To: Dane
Per your reply #83, JMO, you shouldn't take your expertise at the board game Risk into the real world.

The real world is what we are going to get eventually not the dream one you live in
93 posted on 08/13/2004 6:44:20 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob

I might add Japan and Germany didn't give up their fanaticism until they got a REAL ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT and the muslims won't either


94 posted on 08/13/2004 6:47:06 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: uncbob

Fine Uncle Bob, you live it and enjoy it, suck it up. Its good ani't it? What you are witnessing, in all of this stuff should be called, Death of a Nation... I'm voting for Bush, but he's anything than inspirational. He's proving here, not to be a good closer either. If I were him, I'd personally call the top dog in Iraq and say to the commander, " by lunchtime, I want full victory at all cost.Attack on all fronts"..


95 posted on 08/13/2004 6:56:02 AM PDT by Atlanta ( Be the hammer or the anvil...)
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To: Dane
You can do all the armchair quarterbacking you want, but I will trust our military. They know what they are doing, IMO.

It's the politicians we're discussing, not the military. You know, the folks who think it's a brilliant idea to give amnesty to illegals so they can collect more welfare ? And employers can have their payrolls subsidized by taxpayers ?

I am getting tired of this cycle as well. You don't call a ceasefire with a nest of rattlesnakes, you wipe them out, even if they are under the church steps.

96 posted on 08/13/2004 6:56:12 AM PDT by jimt
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To: Barney Gumble
This is totally unacceptable. The war is being managed from the white house. If we do not rid Iraq of these thugs, terrorists, Muslim mercenaries and other fanatical killers, we will be fighting them here. When you have a killer cornered, you kill him. Either fight a war to annihilate the enemy or get out.

I'm a Bush supporter but this is wrong.

97 posted on 08/13/2004 7:00:47 AM PDT by afnamvet (USAF Tuy Hoa AFB RVN 68-69 NOT FONDA KERRY!)
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To: Dog

i thought cheney said we will not fight a "sensitive" war....


98 posted on 08/13/2004 7:01:00 AM PDT by freddiedavis
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To: Barney Gumble

I thought that muslims never lie? Turn the Marines loose and the problem will be solved. I am sick of all this muslim sensitivity. If the shoe were on the other foot, the mooselems would happily destroy a christian church with all occupants including women and children.(Infidels) The P.C. war tactics need to cease and let the Marines do their job. If we allow a truce, then we will fight them again later. Destroy the mosque and if there is a survivor ask him, "Where's Your Allah Now." God Loves The Infantry. Bush/Cheney2004


99 posted on 08/13/2004 7:01:37 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run( 7.62))
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To: jimt

Death of a Nation.


100 posted on 08/13/2004 7:02:11 AM PDT by Atlanta ( Be the hammer or the anvil...)
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