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U.S. Forces Suspend Offensive in Najaf
Yahoo NEWS ^ | 13 Aug 04 | TODD PITMAN

Posted on 08/13/2004 3:49:58 AM PDT by Barney Gumble

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I'm not that upset about this "pause for negotiation" as long as our tight cordon around the shrine is maintained. The only option for those inside the cordon should be to come out with their hands up and surrender.

Any "negotiation" that leads to the cordon being loosened and the Marines pulled out of Najaf (ala Fallujah) would be unbelievably foolish and we, and the Iraqi authorities, would live to regret it.


101 posted on 08/13/2004 7:08:07 AM PDT by saquin
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To: Barney Gumble

Dammit! I thought they'd get that fat bastard this time.


102 posted on 08/13/2004 7:21:08 AM PDT by edchambers (Where are we going and why am I in this hand-basket?)
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To: Barney Gumble
Amazing. It didn't even take one reply. Nope, the same one who posted the article tries to blame it on President Bush.

Do you even pay attention to world events?

103 posted on 08/13/2004 7:26:03 AM PDT by Coop (In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
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To: Coop

What, you don't think if that if Bush wanted to take out Al-Sadr militarily, that he somehow lacks the power? So yes, this wallowing is Bush's policies.


104 posted on 08/13/2004 7:32:15 AM PDT by Barney Gumble ("There are three types of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics." -- Mark Twain)
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To: Dog

Ref: "Aides said al-Sadr had been wounded by shrapnel."

It sounds like he should be awarded a John Kerry "Purple Heart".

I vote for Posthumously!

RamS


105 posted on 08/13/2004 7:34:33 AM PDT by RamingtonStall (Ride Hard and far! ..... and with GPS, Know where you are!)
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To: Barney Gumble
"Hopefully the talks will go well and everything will be resolved peacefully," Pizzateli said.

The continuing triumph of hope over experience. I'm not there, and I implicitly trust those who are. God help us all if their judgment fails.

106 posted on 08/13/2004 7:34:51 AM PDT by timpad (Peace without victory is procrastination)
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To: ZULU

Thank you for your service, but don't you know you're not supposed to disagree with our FreeRepublic French?


107 posted on 08/13/2004 7:38:53 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: Dane

We also have confidence in our Military. We have had over 30 years to smolder on the way our military was Jobbed by the politicians in Vietnam and we do not want the Politicians to do it again.

It is time to let the Marines do the Job that they are capable of doing and then get the hell out of Iraq.

RamS


108 posted on 08/13/2004 7:42:52 AM PDT by RamingtonStall (Ride Hard and far! ..... and with GPS, Know where you are!)
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To: Barney Gumble

Perhaps a diversion - like nuking Iran - would satisfy you.


109 posted on 08/13/2004 7:47:06 AM PDT by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: ASA Vet

You talkin bout me ASA?


110 posted on 08/13/2004 7:48:11 AM PDT by Atlanta ( Be the hammer or the anvil...)
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To: ASA Vet

It's not FreeRepublic French, it's the "Bush can never ever do anything wrong" crowd. "It's all part of a master plan." These are the Bush-bots.


111 posted on 08/13/2004 7:49:22 AM PDT by Barney Gumble ("There are three types of lies: Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics." -- Mark Twain)
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To: Atlanta

Not this time.


112 posted on 08/13/2004 7:53:16 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: ZULU

Remember the Citadel in Hue City? How many US Marines died because we did not (initially) allow the use of artillery and aerial ordnance against the NVA holed up there? Instead, we sent USMC riflemen to crawl along the walls, getting picked off piecemeal because this was the "holy" or "sacred" Citadel. Well, the muslims have made this so-called "holy shrine" in the holy shithole of najaf into an armed fortress - it is now a legitimate target. I am sickened by the fact that we let the ragheads dictate our tactics. Let the Marines do the job effectively and quickly - it will save American lives in the long run.


113 posted on 08/13/2004 8:03:55 AM PDT by astounded
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To: Atlanta
Ok, now that I've read a few of your posts I can say,
No, you are certainly not one of the FreeRepublic French.
You are what they insultingly refer to as an "arm chair general."
If they really want to disparage your opinion they'll call you a member of the "nuke Mecca crowd."
114 posted on 08/13/2004 8:04:31 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Tourette's syndrome is just a $&#$*!% excuse for poor *%$#** language skills.)
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To: ASA Vet
Thank you for your service, but don't you know you're not supposed to disagree with our FreeRepublic French?

LOL! FR french, that's funny, especially coming from the nuke everything crowd.

115 posted on 08/13/2004 8:09:32 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: Barney Gumble

Golly sakes, fight to win....


116 posted on 08/13/2004 8:13:17 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: Dane; leadpenny; Mister Blond
"Seems that the vernacualr of armchair quaterbacking has seeped onto FR."

Same tired line, broken record, one note samba from someone without the ability to think independently.. I proved with 7 stories from papers such as the Washington Times that that the Fallujahn ceasefire decision to not attack was imposed by Bremer and Rumsfeld, not local commanders, but you were too dense to believe it then. Said the same line, over and over.

Now you repeat this brain dead garbage in this instance. Two military analysts on Fox today agree that this decision “originated from above the military”. (That means Alawi incase that’s not clear to you.) I saw the US ambassador to Iraq on Fox as well expressing great concern with this cease fire. He was not happy with it.

We have a duty to question political decisions regarding our troops that we believe are bad, especially when they originate by Iraqis. (Yes I know, we don’t take direct orders from Iraqis. They have just been ordered to cooperate with Alawi and not act against his wishes)

But why am I bothering telling you this. You refuse to see, much less think. You can only say one thing. “armchair quarterbacking”. Polly want a cracker? “Braaaak – armchair quarterbacking.”

117 posted on 08/13/2004 8:13:24 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: elfman2

Ok then. I trust anyone more than you.

Happy?


118 posted on 08/13/2004 8:18:50 AM PDT by Mister Blond
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To: elfman2
…the Fallujahn ceasefire decision to not attack was imposed by Bremer and Rumsfeld, not local commanders…

Yep, that has certainly been reported as being the case and it deserves repeating.

119 posted on 08/13/2004 8:20:26 AM PDT by Who dat?
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To: asa

Forgive my limitations. I have many believe me. I was once a young kid in a Marine uniform and posess EXTREME EMPHATY with those young Marines over there. Most by now have lost their girlfrieds and a few their wives. Some have lost buddies. They want finality, not repetitive/tentative mistakes that bring them closer to death, farther away from home and a leave them with a sickening feeling in their gut that nothing but Full Victory and a plane ride could cure.I am not an arnchair General Sir, I am an armchair Lance Corporal. And, after 4 years in the green machine, I earned that right. PC is the death of many military carreers. I know.


120 posted on 08/13/2004 8:27:50 AM PDT by Atlanta ( Be the hammer or the anvil...)
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