Posted on 08/10/2004 9:59:23 AM PDT by demlosers
My brother is in this group.
He's 18
A miracle indeed.
They better sign up now, before they are drafted...< /sarcasm>
Hmmm. How about a poll on how many high school- age citizens are boneheads?
In a related story, 55% of high schools have been brainwashed by their NEA-member teachers.
Friday, August 6, 2004
Secretary Rumsfeld Interview with “The John &Ray Show,” WUSN-FM Radio
RAY: We’re getting mixed signals from -- I know there’s a lot of people out there that say Rumsfeld wants to bring back the draft. And I…
SEC. RUMSFELD: [Chuckles] Oh, no.
RAY: No, no. I mean, well, let’s clear that up right away, because I know that’s not true because…
SEC. RUMSFELD: Oh.
RAY: … if I’m not mistaking, weren’t you one of the first guys to do away with the draft?
SEC. RUMSFELD: I was one of the first people in Congress to introduce legislation to go to an all-volunteer Army and military. And as a matter of fact, there was a big conference at the University of Chicago with Milton Freedman and a whole host of people and there were many – I testified before the House and Senate as a young congressman recommending that we end the draft. We don’t need the draft. We’ve got the ability to pay people what they’re worth and to adjust incentives so we can attract and retain the people we need. And fortunately, we have a relatively small number of people in the military, compared to our population, so we’re not having trouble attracting and retaining the people we need.
I thought the same thing coming out of high school at the start of Gulf War I. With the combination of improper education at a Gov't school and the Media constantly talking about the draft, it was not an impossible reality to envision.
Of course, it did not happen.
"A miracle indeed."
No kidding! These kids cannot BELIEVE people actually had to get up out of their recliners to change the TV channel! (What my sprouts call "in the olden days"!) Indeed!
Maybe they were thinking of the NBA draft. I think it comes back about once a year.
Darned Democrats introduce a bill to expand the draft, then point fingers at the Republicans, and scream - "They did it!"
And the poor high school students have their teachers telling them that Bush is going to reinstitute a draft.
There is only reason why this country will institute a draft... We come under a major attack by another major power. So, yes - a draft could happen - but at the moment it doesn't seem likely.
Tuesday, August 3, 2004
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld Interview with Paul W. Smith, Newstalk 760 Radio, WJR Detroit
Q: You have been working, Mr. Secretary, on changing – really, our military in many, many ways, replacing an old model for sizing forces with a newer approach, more relevant to the 21st century. And there’s been conversation -- even argument -- as to whether our forces are large enough. It used to be to be able to wage two wars at once. You remember all of those discussions in days gone by. There are people who are saying, in fact, that maybe we need to go back to the draft. What do you say?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Well, it’s – first of all, it’s an important discussion and debate and I think it’s a good thing that the country has this discussion. The problem is that there’s a tendency for people in the 21st century to still have their 20th century thinking caps on. And they tend to equate capability with numbers of things. For example, if you had 10 bombs, the theory is that’s better than five bombs. But if you have 10 smart bombs that have the capability of 10 bombs per one dumb bomb, obviously, you can get along with a lot fewer. And the same thing’s true with many other aspects of it, whether it’s ships, guns, tanks or planes. So we need to think in 21st century terms, in terms of lethality, in terms of speed of deployability, in usability of the capabilities, rather than simply numbers of things.
In the case of the draft, I must say I feel very strongly that the country does not need a draft and should not go back to the draft, that we are having in a country of -- whatever it is now -- 275 million people, with an active force of 1.4 million, we are having no trouble at all maintaining a force that’s appropriate. We have decided consciously that we want to have a total force concept where we have some on active duty and some in the Guard and Reserves who we don’t need full time, but we may need from time to time to come on active duty and to assist the country. That’s what we’re doing. It’s working very well. Recruiting and retention is excellent. And I think people recommending the draft are mistaken, suggesting that we don’t have the ability to have as many people on active duty as we need. We do have that ability. It’s simply a matter of adjusting the incentives, which is what one would do in any other activity in life.
Q: Mr. Secretary, then when Senator Kerry says that using the Reserves is really – I can’t remember exactly how he said it, but like a backdoor draft – you would disagree with that?
SEC. RUMSFELD: Why, certainly. I mean, my goodness anyone knows that anyone in the Reserve is there voluntarily. There’s not a single person in the Reserves who didn’t raise their hand, sign up and say “Send me, I want to joint the Reserve.” I stayed in the active naval Reserve after I left active duty in the Navy for many, many years, fully understanding that my assignment was to drill one weekend a month, go on two weeks’ active duty a year and be available, in the event the country needed, to call to active duty the Reserves or the Guard for some special relatively short-term period. And I was happy to do it, and everyone in the Guard and Reserve is there because that’s what they made a conscious decision to do.
if Kerry wins, enlistment and re-enlistment to the military will plummet.
most still think the Earth is flat.
Alternate title: Experience shows that most parents believe high schoolers are idiots (when it comes to politics they think with emotions...when it comes to sex well........)
I've already started hearing rumblings to that effect. Soldiers, sailors and airmen don't feel comfortable with Kerry and have said off the record that they may not reenlist if Kerry is elected.
Now, if Kerry is elected, will he still rely on the mainly conservative patriots who make up a large portion of the military to fight for him or will he encourage liberals to take up guns and fight his more "sensitive" war on terror?
Looks like teachers are spending more time scaring kids about the draft than to read.
Right. Unless China goes nuts and starts attacking, there won't be a draft.
The Horatio Alger Association is probably one of the phoney non profits funded by the Tides Foundation.
If so that would explain why this bogus poll was done.
The ONLY sponsors (including the 14 co-signers) are Democrats. It is purely a campaign scare tactic cooked up by the 'Rats to court the youth vote. Forums for young people and blogs have propagated the rumor that President Bush is seeking to bring back the draft (propagated by good li'l democrat operatives, doesn't matter whether they were paid to do this or not).
If these students would stop downloading porn, playing online games, and engaging in online cam sessions long enough to look up the 2 bills, they would see that the only people who are proposing a draft are Democrats. If they want to see the draft become a reality, support Democrats, kids.
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