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Outstanding.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 08/09/2004 4:07:19 PM PDT by MadIvan
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For most of his adult life John Kerry has peddled as his central Vietnam anecdote – the one that drove him to turn on his nation's leaders – what appears to be a complete fantasy. Why would he do such a thing? If there's a good answer to that question, maybe someone in his doting press pack would like to ask it.

He's nuancing!

73 posted on 08/09/2004 5:38:49 PM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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All this confirms my suspicion that the 2004 election will be about purging the demons and illusions we acquired from Vietnam.


78 posted on 08/09/2004 5:58:16 PM PDT by thoughtomator (I question the timing of this post)
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Just one problem. It never happened. Every living officer up his chain of command says Kerry was never ordered to Cambodia. At least three of his five crewmen say their boat was never in Cambodia. And if you don't believe any of his fellow veterans, read the excerpt from Kerry's own journal published in Tour Of Duty, the recent hagiography by Douglas Brinkley.

I love reading Mark Steyn.

A new word for me and used perfectly by Mark.

Hagiography - 1. Biography of saints. 2. A worshipful or idealizing biography.

86 posted on 08/09/2004 6:23:44 PM PDT by RJL
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verbal body-slam bump.


87 posted on 08/09/2004 6:25:15 PM PDT by smonk
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"I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia...

"...My mission is to make it up into Cambodia. There's a Green Beret Colonel up there who's gone insane. I'm supposed to kill him."

90 posted on 08/09/2004 6:38:02 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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"I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia...

"...The crew were mostly kids. Rock & rollers with one foot in their grave."

91 posted on 08/09/2004 6:40:18 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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bttt


92 posted on 08/09/2004 6:40:48 PM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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"I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real..."

"...Part of me was afraid of what I would find and what I would do when I got there. I knew the risks, or imagined I knew. But the thing I felt the most, much stronger than fear, was the desire to confront him."

93 posted on 08/09/2004 6:42:39 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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"I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians..."

"...I was going to the worst place in the world and I didn't even know it yet. Weeks away and hundreds of miles up a river that snaked through the war like a main circuit cable - plugged straight into Kurtz. It was no accident that I got to be the caretaker of Colonel Walter E. Kurtz's memory - any more than being back in Saigon was an accident. There is no way to tell his story without telling my own. And if his story really is a confession, then so is mine."

95 posted on 08/09/2004 6:47:02 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
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bump


103 posted on 08/09/2004 7:38:41 PM PDT by RippleFire ("It was just a scratch")
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I noticed someone on another message board mention that the Khmer Rouge wasn't even involved in the fighting until 1970, two years after Kerry says they shot at him. I'm trying to verify it...

The only thing I can find so far is this - http://www.fact-index.com/k/kh/khmer_rouge.html


"Until 1970, Cambodia was a constitutional monarchy. Prince Norodom Sihanouk was deposed on March 18, 1970, and brought to power the pro-American General Lon Nol."

"The Khmer Rouge army (the National Army of Democratic Kampuchea), aided by North Vietnam and supported by Norodom Sihanouk, began a revolution in response in 1970, quickly gaining control over most of the country. In April 1975 they finally overthrew Lon Nol, to establish Democratic Kampuchea."


104 posted on 08/09/2004 7:53:51 PM PDT by Tamzee (Tell me honestly, Honey... do these classified documents make me look fat?)
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John Kerry is too strange to be president. I don't mean "strange" in the way of his predecessor. Al Gore, the first Android-American to run for president, was weird. But Kerry's strangeness is of an entirely different order.

More accurately 'Kerry's strangeness is of an entirely different DIS-order.'

105 posted on 08/09/2004 8:00:41 PM PDT by eeriegeno
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Dear John: The electorate is about to report for duty.


106 posted on 08/09/2004 8:11:54 PM PDT by PGalt
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More precisely why would he turn on his fellow servicemen in that famous 1971 testimony before Congress and label himself a war criminal and decades later turn around and decide he was a war hero all along? John F*ckin' owes the country and explanation for the extreme makeover in his views about the Vietnam War between then and now. I'm astonished a mainstream journalist hasn't yet pressed him on the subject. Remember, this is in regards to a war the Left hated. "Nuanced" doesn't cut it.


107 posted on 08/09/2004 8:44:40 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Why would he do such a thing?

Because it's the only thing he has done in his entire empty life that resembles adventure. He is a dull man with a dull life and he has to lie to make people admire him. It's not working.

111 posted on 08/09/2004 8:59:07 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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In a British way, I read stuff like this and imagine that giant Monty Python cartoon foot stomping down and the John Kerry campaign with a loud "bllllttt."


115 posted on 08/09/2004 9:10:26 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Not only was John Kerry shot at by the Khmer Rouge, he was also at Normandy for D-day.

And he personally waded ashore some tropical island and was heard mumbling something about how he would return.

There's rumor Kerry saved Grant and rode with Sherman. Rumors that he burned Atlanta are being denied, but he did brag about it for years.

Anyone who challenges Kerry's heroic acts is a right wing nut. The press accepts every word, every deed, every story, and refuses to look into the matter. When Kerry speaks, the press stands and cheers. When Kerry lies they look away, but keep him safe.

116 posted on 08/09/2004 9:12:34 PM PDT by GOPJ
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124 posted on 08/09/2004 10:30:22 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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Bump!


128 posted on 08/09/2004 11:25:47 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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bump


135 posted on 08/10/2004 10:49:36 AM PDT by GOPJ
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