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Fat is fabulous, insist anti-diet protesters
The Observer, Guardian ^ | 8AUG04 | Paul Harris

Posted on 08/07/2004 10:23:23 PM PDT by familyop

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To: familyop

Sorry for the double post.

And sorry to hear of you losing loved ones at such an early age. To me it sounds more genetic than overeating. I have two friends that died young of heart attacks..one being 51. He didn't smoke but was overweight. The other was only 40 when he died. He wasn't overweight and was physically in excellent condition but died of a heart attack anyway. Surely his was genetic.


41 posted on 08/08/2004 12:57:03 AM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: Casloy

I'm fat. I'm healthy. I'm Happy.

Don't like being fat, don't excercise enough.

I am not attractive, but not in a position to worry about it.

I was ugley when I was 100lbs too.

But happy yeppers. Glad for everyday I am alive.

Took two plus years but all is good with blood work. Still haven't lost weight.

But I am happy. I know skinny people who are full of drama and woes, I am happier.

Happy is a state of mental health.

Being fat does not make one unhappy.

Not me any way. Sure I would love to be thinner but it wouldn't make me happier.


42 posted on 08/08/2004 12:57:58 AM PDT by oceanperch ( 04 Bush.....He will continue to lead America with the Lords Blessing)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Actually, it is my goal to live to 100. Old secret to long life, choose your parents well. I am fortunate, eat what I want, when I want, and wear the same 30/31 size I did in high school 35 years ago. God forbid we target the obese like we did smokers, but don't ask me to support these Moby Dicks in drydock on account of their "disability", let alone some "carb addiction". (What wingnut invented that addiction?)

I can eat like a horse and stay slim because I work my arse off. Even if one gets away with being a "TV addict" and a couch potato, it cannot end up on one's butt if one does not first shovel it in the pie hole. Simple physics, conservation of matter with utter lack of energy.

Insurance is socialism? Big difference, non-governmental insurance is totally optional. Don't like it, don't pay the premiums, and in short order you will no longer be a "socialist".


43 posted on 08/08/2004 1:27:07 AM PDT by barkeep
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To: familyop

My grampa was 300 plus pounds when he died at 98.. my adorable 185 pound gramma is 85... My skinny ex boyfriend died in his sleep of a heart attack at 32 because heart problems ran in the family.... it's all in the DNA, does that mean I recommend that people don't eat right and excercise? No.. it just means that you can't generalize.. and it shouldn't be acceptable to make fun of people because of how they look. We are ALL sinners, cute or ugly, fat or thin, and God loves us all.


44 posted on 08/08/2004 1:57:44 AM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: All

oops almost forgot... 2 years ago my husband was hit by a 3/4 ton pickup while he was on his motorcycle, sent him flying into the pavement.... his doctor told him that if he had been a skinny guy he would be dead.


45 posted on 08/08/2004 2:01:37 AM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: Awestruck

Your husband is lucky.


46 posted on 08/08/2004 2:03:05 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Awestruck

BTW, the one time I was thankful to have a huge behind was sliding on my scooter in the snow :o)


47 posted on 08/08/2004 2:03:58 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Awestruck

Thanks for the not generalizing post.

My birth mother whom I took after to a T is very intelligent, very eccentric/manic, short and fat but healthy physically.

I don't have a thyroid gland lost that whole thing at 29. Up untill then I barely tipped the scales at 100lbs.

To lose wieght I would have to spend hours a day working out and I have other priorities.

Being hyper I can run cirlces around most people and get three times the work done.

You are right it is in the Genes and ones disposition to perservere.


48 posted on 08/08/2004 2:09:30 AM PDT by oceanperch ( 04 Bush.....He will continue to lead America with the Lords Blessing)
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To: familyop

Here we go again. Someone can't make up their mind to do the right thing so they turn their vice into a virtue.


49 posted on 08/08/2004 2:10:23 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: Awestruck

Had an employee who was in the PNW Ocean after falling over board crabbing and lasted 6hrs with no hypothermia but no loss of limbs or organ failure.


However all the attention made his head swell and after some major mistakes on the job had to let him go. I say he has salt on the brain syndrome.

But the Drs. said his being 350 lbs and only in his underwear with floats in them is what kept him alive in 57 degree water.


50 posted on 08/08/2004 2:14:55 AM PDT by oceanperch ( 04 Bush.....He will continue to lead America with the Lords Blessing)
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To: oceanperch; Awestruck

no hypothremia should have been no severe hypothermia


51 posted on 08/08/2004 2:18:17 AM PDT by oceanperch ( 04 Bush.....He will continue to lead America with the Lords Blessing)
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To: cyborg

Good call, you're absolutely on the mark. Mid-thirties metabolism and a desk job caught up with me a couple of years ago, and I was in denial, plus I'm very tall and heavily built, so I kinda hide it well (at least from myself). I had a physical and when the doc told me what I weighed I about fell off the chair, so I joined a gym and took off 75 lbs, and I immediately began to feel like a new person. This lady doesn't realize just how fun it is popping out of bed in the morning when you're really healthy. Sad that she'll never know with that attitude.


52 posted on 08/08/2004 2:20:19 AM PDT by SoDak
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To: familyop

like RAndy Neumans song says,"fat people go no reason to live".
Jiggling celulite? Ooohhh baby.


53 posted on 08/08/2004 3:37:19 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (4 more years)
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To: familyop
People who are fat will do all they can to rationalize the way that they are. I know this because I was one of them. I spend most of my adult life being obese and all during that time I said "no big deal...it's just the way I am." Meanwhile I was developing Type II diabetes, getting winded climbing up stairs and was always too tired to play ball with the kids or go on bike rides, etc.

That's no way to live.

I now walk at least 10,000 steps a day (five miles) and usually more than that. I stopped eating junk and try to eat only whole foods (the way people ate for thousands of years). I dropped over 100 pounds and I am now close to my average weight.

I am full of energy now. At the age of 41, I have more energy then when I was 25. I bound up several flights of stairs without effort, go on 10+ mile hikes each weekend and rise at 5AM each morning (which is when I "find time" to do my daily walks).

It's far better living this way then the way I was. Nearly two decades of my life was wasted being fat and unhealthy. Lack of exercise and eating the wrong kinds of foods kept me "imprisoned" in my fat body. So I say to the obese people out there: Change your lifestyle and stop making excuses.

54 posted on 08/08/2004 3:54:51 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (High tide has passed and is running out for John Kerry)
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To: familyop
Fat if fabulous?

Considering, among everything else, the recent research about obesity and the increased risk of breast cancer in obese women, I would beg to disagree.

55 posted on 08/08/2004 4:00:45 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: cyborg

I prefer "blessed".. don't believe in luck.


56 posted on 08/08/2004 9:39:42 AM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: oceanperch

I think survival has less to do with earthly matters (whether we're big or small), and more to do with how long God chooses to let us hang around. If it's not your time, a little fat, a truck, or a cold ocean isn't gonna kill ya.


57 posted on 08/08/2004 9:43:22 AM PDT by Awestruck (The artist formerly known as Goodie D)
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To: familyop; Maven; SamAdams76

I'm genuinely sympathetic with anyone having this struggle, and can imagine the usualy superior, haughty derision filling the posts preceding mine.

But, having dropped about 100 pounds, I do have a viewpoint.

Frequent serious headaches, falling asleep at the job or while driving, tachycardia, sleep apnea, acid reflux, inability to play with my children, old-man aches and pains all over, waddling gait, having to buy my clothes at special places for higher prices, hating every glimpse of myself in a mirror, feeling legitimately guilty all the time....

All gone, and none fitting my definition of "fabulous." Closer to my definition of "in-denial."

Dan


58 posted on 08/08/2004 9:45:31 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: dr huer
How about their joints? Do they last as long?

No. It's hard to roll a proper joint with fat fingers. It tends to burn unevenly and the fire creeps down one side.

59 posted on 08/08/2004 9:48:50 AM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: BibChr
I agree with you. People who have always been thin open themselves up to charges of being "superior, haughty, judgemental...etc." whenever they jump into these discussions of obesity.

It falls upon those who have been obese themselves to take the lead in these sort of crusades. Only those who have fought the battle themselves can really know what it is like.

When I was fat, I made all sorts of excuses. I "didn't have time" to exercise. Obesity was in my genetic makeup. I'm actually healthy despite my weight. Blah, blah, blah.

Fact is, I too couldn't stand seeing myself in pictures and there were very few pictures of me during the past 20 years because I would avoid cameras. Wouldn't even get in pictures with my own kids if I could help it. I waddled like a duck and had to buy my clothes in fat man's shops. Due to my gut, my shirt was always getting untucked because my gut was always pushing my pants down. As a result, I looked like Chris Farley (from SNL), constantly pulling up my pants and redoing my belt.

I sat around all day and was too tired to do anything strenous. I felt like an old man. Aches, pains, dizziness - just a general feeling of fatigue all day long. Had trouble sleeping at night too and I'd often stay up until 2AM, often with beer and bags of pretzels or chips by my side.

I can go on and on.

With the 100 pounds off and daily exercise regimen in place, I feel 20 years younger. I feel that I have recaptured my youth (at the age of 41). I now bound up and down stairs, climb rocks, run around with the kids - all that stuff with hardly any effort at all. This was the first summer that I didn't feel hot and sweaty all the time. And I can now buy clothes anywhere because my size is in all the stores. And once I put on my pants in the morning, I don't have to retuck my shirt or adjust my belt the entire day.

As a side note, my career at work has taken off too. I'm getting promotions that were never offered to me before. Like it or not, employers do discriminate against obese people. Although I must say that other factors have come into play such as having much more energy and enthusiasm in the workplace. All of those improvements however are attributed to taking off this weight.

I can go on and on but pictures speak louder than words so I'll post a before and after picture of myself below...if you are obese, it is definitely worth making a change.

60 posted on 08/08/2004 10:53:06 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (High tide has passed and is running out for John Kerry)
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