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new movie!: MERGE SWIFTEE AD + SWIFTEE NEWS CONFERENCE FOR MAXIMUM EFFECT
swiftvets.com/ ^ | 8.05.04 | Mia T

Posted on 08/05/2004 9:22:21 AM PDT by Mia T

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To: Mia T

Well, I'm not the one you'd have to convince. If I were you I'd work on Interesting Times or taking it directly to the Swifties.


61 posted on 08/05/2004 1:16:58 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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this movie was not offered up as a finished product.The purpose of this post was to illustrate a point I had made elsewhere, namely, that the ad should include supportive data so that it could not be dismissed by the left as simply an ad hominem attack.


62 posted on 08/05/2004 1:27:03 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: jla

bump


63 posted on 08/05/2004 1:56:32 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

bttt


64 posted on 08/05/2004 2:45:20 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: Wolverine

bump


65 posted on 08/05/2004 4:21:10 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
The same, and the same types of, people who elected & reelected Ronald Reagan will show up Nov 2nd for Dubya...and they will do so in a clear, unambiguous way, with an Electoral College landslide.

And believe it or not, they are smart enough to recognize the differences between President Bush & John Kerry.

66 posted on 08/05/2004 5:18:07 PM PDT by jla (http://www.ronaldreaganmemorial.com/memorial_fund.asp)
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To: jla

bump!


67 posted on 08/05/2004 5:51:25 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
"The purpose of this post was to illustrate a point I had made elsewhere, namely, that the ad should include supportive data so that it could not be dismissed by the left as simply an ad hominem attack."

Do you think the addition of more info would stop the ad hominems from the peanut gallery? Their primary claim is that none of the SBVs was on sKerrys boat.

68 posted on 08/05/2004 11:16:09 PM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...coming soon!)
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To: Bob J
"The purpose of this post was to illustrate a point I had made elsewhere, namely, that the ad should include supportive data so that it could not be dismissed by the left as simply an ad hominem attack." -Mia T
 
Do you think the addition of more info would stop the ad hominems from the peanut gallery? Their primary claim is that none of the SBVs was on sKerrys boat.--Bob J

 

Actually, yes. If it had been explained that:

  1. As (primarily) officers, the swift boat vets were, by definition, on other boats.
  2. But they were on the same TEAM, i.e.,coastal division, as kerry
  3. Being on the same team, in the same division, they worked IN CLOSE PROXIMITY to kerry, COORDINATING maneuvers with kerry, often within MERE FEET of kerry, etc.
  4. They were, therefore, perfectly situated to know whether there was enemy fire, or whether kerry retreated only to return when it was 'safe,' or whether the supposed rescue by kerry really occurred amid enemy fire, or whether the 'purple heart' wound received by kerry was self-inflicted or whether it occurred amid enemy fire, etc.
  5. As he described in the news conference, the gunner was not only on Kerry's boat; he was in fact perched above kerry, he always had a direct view of kerry and he could--and did--observe kerry's every move.
  6. That the doctor who treated kerry for what he believed was a self-inflicted wound didn't sign the report is a red herring. It was often the case that a lower medic type signed such reports.
  7. The swift vets are a politically mixed bag. After leaving the military, Admiral Zumwalt, for example, ran for political office as a democrat.
  8. No one is addressing the elephant in the room: kerry's 1971 and 1996 mutually exclusive and equally damning positions on the atrocities. Either Kerry is a liar and a traitor, or Kerry is a liar and a war criminal. Either way, Kerry is patently unfit for office.

In an upcoming post, I plan explore the fallacies coming the panicked left (as well as the fallacies coming from the politically correct, politically cowardly and politically cynical middle and right)...

I hate to say, "I told you so," but because it lacked supportive data, the swift boat ad is being dismissed as ad hominem attack by all these factions. This didn't have to be.

69 posted on 08/06/2004 2:43:21 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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ping


70 posted on 08/06/2004 4:24:28 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Bob J; jla; All

The swiftees should go back to the drawing board. If they add the supportive data, the ad will be unassailable.


71 posted on 08/06/2004 5:26:31 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Interesting Times

fyi


72 posted on 08/06/2004 7:54:06 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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bttt


73 posted on 08/06/2004 8:49:04 AM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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ping


74 posted on 08/06/2004 10:32:48 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Baynative

ROFL!!!!

That is great!!!


75 posted on 08/06/2004 11:28:03 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
bump!

It was a great segue.
Listen to Nixon on Kerry, 1971.

76 posted on 08/06/2004 12:00:02 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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77 posted on 08/06/2004 7:30:46 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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ping


78 posted on 08/07/2004 3:05:40 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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ping


79 posted on 08/07/2004 6:01:04 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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ping


80 posted on 08/07/2004 2:05:45 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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