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Jamming for Jesus
Jerusalem Post ^ | July 29th, 2004 | Jenny Hazan

Posted on 08/02/2004 5:12:15 PM PDT by missyme

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To: anotherview

"...prostletyzing Christian, who, like the Arab who wants to destroy Israel, is an enemy of the Jewish people."

Nonsense. A true Christian must by definition be a "prostletyzing" Christian. Take your hatred and your fake "disclaimers" someplace where such bile is welcome (perhaps DU?)


201 posted on 08/03/2004 11:08:03 AM PDT by Kerfuffle (Support your Christian missionaries in the Middle East!)
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To: Modernman

To but in, with the Logos: "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."

That speaks of the fulfillment that Jesus claimed of the Old Covenant in the New (Himself), eh?


202 posted on 08/03/2004 11:10:24 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Modernman; missyme

To but in, with the Logos: "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth."

That speaks of the fulfillment that Jesus claimed of the Old Covenant in the New (Himself), eh?


203 posted on 08/03/2004 11:10:41 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Bella_Bru

NO...And Yes I have went over this topic many many times on FR with Jews about why they don't accept Jesus, and the only one who has given Biblical truthful honest answers is Safisoft, which I am going to do more research about his writings.

But I will give you this: For the sake that you are correct. Jesus was not the Messiah he has not arrived yet, okay the entire world if you can imagine is only Jewish and Gentile oh cannot forget ISLAM then we have hindus, buddhists, etc...

Can you really imagine a world like that? DO you really rhink that our world would be more PEACEFUL? or have more Kind Compassionate individuals, people are so greedy now? Can you imagine if the Gentiles who were not commanded to tithe and give to the poor would do so? This might sound silly to you, but try and see that picture and tell me your thoughts?


204 posted on 08/03/2004 11:10:42 AM PDT by missyme
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To: Bella_Bru; missyme

missyme seems to be unable to grasp that God may have different plans for different peoples. She assumes that there is only one path to salvation- through Jesus. That MAY be true for gentiles (though I personally believe that, if there is a God, he used other religions such as Hinduism or Buddhism for different people), but that doesn't mean that those are the rules for Jews.


205 posted on 08/03/2004 11:11:10 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: malakhi

NO..
Frustration only...I'm human)


206 posted on 08/03/2004 11:12:19 AM PDT by missyme
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To: Kerfuffle
I suuport Jews and Christians in the Middle East.

However, I donate to Jews for Judaism.

It's rather telling that some Christians cannot support Israel without wanting to convert all Jews. One wonders if that support is really true or not.

207 posted on 08/03/2004 11:12:33 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Kerfuffle
Nonsense. A true Christian must by definition be a "prostletyzing" Christian. Take your hatred and your fake "disclaimers" someplace where such bile is welcome (perhaps DU?)

You know, newbie, you have a lot of nerve telling people they don't belong on this site.

208 posted on 08/03/2004 11:12:54 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: anotherview

Intriguing, AV. So you truly would prefer to see your own children blown apart by bombs set by Hamas murderers than see them accept Jesus as their Savior?
Amazing the whole Middle East isn't an ash pit already.


209 posted on 08/03/2004 11:13:40 AM PDT by Kerfuffle (Support your Christian missionaries in the Middle East!)
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To: missyme
It appears all SINNERS who did not obey TORAH were usually killed is that correct? as GOD had no place for them?

Provision was made for sinners/foreigners who did not obey the Torah to live peacably with the Children of Israel. As to the ones put to death, that was God's decision of judgment under the terms He maintained with us humans at the time -- He can do that. Even then, as I recall my reading, they had usually attacked the Israelites already, or at least declared/conspired against them.

210 posted on 08/03/2004 11:14:20 AM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Modernman

Of course he was not lying....If homosexuality and secularism is accepted in Israel are they living up to the convenant with GOD? based on what you say they have no chance in the afterlife.....


211 posted on 08/03/2004 11:14:34 AM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme
Of course he was not lying

Then, by trying to convert Jews, you are either (a) calling God's promise worthless or (b) claiming that you know what is better for the Jews than God.

Which one is it?

If homosexuality and secularism is accepted in Israel are they living up to the convenant with GOD?

I don't know. I don't claim to be well-versed in the specifics of the Jewish covenent with God, nor do I presume to speak for God.

based on what you say they have no chance in the afterlife.....

You are truly arrogant if you believe any man knows who deserves rewards in the afterlife.

212 posted on 08/03/2004 11:19:12 AM PDT by Modernman ("I have nothing to declare except my genius." -Oscar Wilde)
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To: missyme
NO...And Yes I have went over this topic many many times on FR with Jews about why they don't accept Jesus, and the only one who has given Biblical truthful honest answers is Safisoft, which I am going to do more research about his writings.

Liar. Sjackson, Malakhi, and I even believe Alouette have all pointed you to Torah for explanation.

LMAO. Do you comprehend that Jews have a 'live and let live' perspective on other religions? That means, we don't care what Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, et al., want to worship. Leave us alone, we leave you alone. Is that so hard for you to understand?

And no, I do not believe the world would be more peaceful or less greedy if everyone converted to Christianity. In case you have noticed, not all Christians are paradigms of virtue. In that same vein, many non-religious people give plenty of hard work and money to charity.

213 posted on 08/03/2004 11:19:26 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: Modernman

Where in the Holy Bible or TORAH say that GOD has different plans for different people, that sounds kind of racist to me?

That is like saying we as Caucasions have a different set of standards to live by Blacks, Asians and Hipanics are to live by other ones....


214 posted on 08/03/2004 11:19:31 AM PDT by missyme
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To: missyme
Why would GOD who give the Jewish people laws to live by so that they might have eternal life, and permit a Messiah to come thrught the JEWS as a JEW let the JEWISH people beleive for the most part he was a fraud and a liar

Do you ever stop for a moment and consider the possibility that you might be wrong?

215 posted on 08/03/2004 11:20:19 AM PDT by malakhi (There is no problem so bad that it can't be made worse by government intervention.)
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To: Modernman

Ah, so the longer people are around, the more they enjoy hatred? That's not very encouraging.


216 posted on 08/03/2004 11:20:41 AM PDT by Kerfuffle (Support your Christian missionaries in the Middle East!)
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To: Kerfuffle

What was your old screen name? I'm having a tough time remembering.


217 posted on 08/03/2004 11:20:44 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: malakhi

She can't be. Her pastor told her so.


218 posted on 08/03/2004 11:23:35 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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To: missyme
Was wondering where you were, missed alot of heated posts on this thread....

There were already 140+ posts on the thread when I started reading it. Took me a while to get through them all.

I don't know I was thinking okay maybe ALL Christians should leave Israel and not speak of Jesus there.

Treat Israel like we treat any other country that would be part of NATO, would that be the right thing to do?

Israel is a better ally than France.

There is no need for all Christians to leave Israel. The ones engaging in missionary activities should just stop proselytizing Jews.

219 posted on 08/03/2004 11:25:06 AM PDT by malakhi (There is no problem so bad that it can't be made worse by government intervention.)
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To: Piranha

Messianic Brothers around the world are fighting just as hard for Israel as the Orthodox Jews who live there.
Christians by the millions have been defending Israel in government, military, and faith based programs against the enemies of Zion.

Jesus was the champion of Israel and the people of Jewish faith. To turn a cold shoulder to the Messianic, and Christian brothers and sisters of Israel, is a grave mistake.

OPs4 God BLess America and Israel!


220 posted on 08/03/2004 11:27:55 AM PDT by OPS4
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