THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE (Ebert's review)

Chicago Sun Times ^ | 7/30/04 | Roger Ebert

[M 91 u2 K]

In the new version, right-wingers pose as liberals to win office while neutering the left

Ebert is so blind it is left-wingers posing as convservatives while neutering America's defense!

[netmilsmom]

Do you know the surprise ending?

[Imaverygooddriver]

I love how Hollywood is completely saturating the market with these politico films all bashing the right. Yeah, Hollywood is fair isn`t it? I read that review of The Village yesterday in the Post and almost gagged. The leader is named "Walker" and the signs outside the village are color coded for threat levels etc. Then of course you have Tubbys movie Fatandweight 911 pounds, then that other one by Harry Thomson about Clinton, it`s never ending is it? Hollywood is in panic mode doing everything it can to get the most liberal moron into the White House.

[Cincinatus]

the idea that corporations may be subverting the democratic process is plausible in the age of Enron.

Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought that the Enron executives who had done wrong had been indicted and/or cooperated with federal prosecutors (from the Bush Justice Dept., I might add). So exactly how is it that the "democratic process has been subverted"?

[Huck]

the idea that corporations may be subverting the democratic process is plausible in the age of Enron.

Right, the Enron senior leadership shackled and indicted is clear proof that they run the government.

[KeyWest]

Going back to the first one. We have a war hero who all those who were with him say he is wonderful, but those outside his group say he is not. That sounds like Kerry. But for him to fit he would have to kill himself (the plot of the original - the brainwashed guy is going to kill the pres candidate).

But Kerry is a liberal acting like a conservative, just the opposite of the new movie, but fits the plot. And one of the crew is missing since he disagrees with "Kerry is a good guy" mantra.

To have any parallel, there has to be a scheming woman manipulating everything. She also has to have a weak husband. And she wants the Presidential candidate out of the way so she can step in. Naw... there is no dem woman like that.

[Eepsy]

The ending should be up here in the next day or two:
http://www.themoviespoiler.com/

This is a handy site when you want to know the twist without actually having to bother seeing the movie.

[leadpenny]

I saw the original before it was embargoed after the Kennedy hit. I will never see this one.

No fan of Sinatra, he was the best in the black and white version.

[RightthinkinAmerican]

The Enron that did all the book cooking under Clintoon, but was prosecuted under Bush? These people live in fantasy land.

[HHFi]

They keep making such a big deal about "Fathead 9/11" earning over $100 million, "the most ever earned by a documentary!" This is nonsense. First of all, it's not a documentary. It's a piece of propaganda, tailor-made for a large, highly-motivated niche audience of fuming, irrational Al Gore voters. As such, it shouldn't be compared to real documentaries; it should be compared to films like "Batman" or "The Hulk," which are also cartoonish films that appeal to a niche audience of rabid fans of silly comic book characters.

If memory serves, Gore got about 48.5 million votes. I don't know what the average movie ticket costs, but if we average the higher art house evening shows with the bargain matinees and settle on $7, that means that all it had to do was sell one ticket to each Gore voter and it should have made nearly $340 million. Seems to me it's not only not reaching a wider audience, it hasn't even attracted one-third of its intended audience. Doesn't sound like much of a phenomenon to me. The total domestic gross for "The Hulk" was $132,177,234, and it was considered a big flop.

The only reason Moore is rolling in money is because his cartoon was so much cheaper to make than "The Hulk," and the liberal media provided his marketing for free. That other big, green, angry, unkempt blob had to pay for his own commercials.

[arthurus]

I guess its all those "lives" that were lost in the Enron war in California.

[Tribune7]

whose Medal of Honor launched his political career.

OTOH, who does this remind you of?

[ChadGore]

I've noticed something about todays liberal. They use the word "corporation" with the same vile contempt that a surviving polish Jew might utter the phrase "Nazi Germany"

When I drive to work every morning I see car after car, person after person going to "corporations" who's sallaries are derived from "profits".

Why can't todays liberal see that simple truth ?

[bad company]

Now add George Soros to that equasion and you've got a movie.

[atomicpossum]

So Ebert gives away the Streep-character's involvement in the first paragraph of his review? Sloppy, the original used that as the big shock of the movie...

I used to read Ebert for reviews, as a 'control,' to keep a consistency of reviewer to evaluate a movie, but he's gone WAY LEFTY in the last few years, even to the extent of straining for a connection to throw in his political shots. He's become unreadable, and apparently it's blinded him to the stupidity of a 'corporate takeover' concept (he thought a communist takeover was 'far-fetched,' but this isn't?).

[Portnoy]

I actually liked the Hulk. (I was probably one of the few who did...)

[pepperhead]

At one point, Marco actually leaps upon the vice presidential candidate, rips off his shirt and tries to bite a chip out from under his skin.

WTF? How is this any better than a good old fashion brainwashing? Chip under the skin in their shoulder controlling their brain? That sounds so stupid. And biting it out? The tea scene in the original is one of the greatest things ever filmed. This movie didn't need to be remade.

[Imaverygooddriver]

Someone should do a documentary on Stinky Moore and how many times he changes his clothes in a month. I mean this guy has been wearing the same black shirt and jacket for the past 4 months! Why anyone doesn`t notice this is beyond me. I`m not kidding, look up pictures of him in Yahoo news, he`s always wearing the same thing. The only thing he changes is his baseball hat.

[Puppage]

The Enron that did all the book cooking under Clintoon, but was prosecuted under Bush?

BINGO!

But, we're dealing with their feeeeelings, facts are not allowed.

[normy]

It's a stretch to imagine a communist takeover of America, but the idea that corporations may be subverting the democratic process is plausible in the age of Enron.

Yet here we have a movie that tries to demonise the free enterprise system or at least non-governmental forms of employment. A political party that wants to turn power over to the UN as stated by its Presidential candidate. A media that calls the truth a lie and a lie the truth, who fully backs one candidate over the other and uses its influence to get its candidate elected. Movie makers who insult the country and its people and accuse the President of corruption, intended to erode support for a war against a vicious enemy and the President who is winning that war.

One candidate has a small group of soldiers who follow him around , lauding his greatness, while the vast majority who served with him bitterly oppose him, yet are unable to get noticed by the suffocating media who refuse to show this side.

I hope America sees this movie as I will. The Hollywood brass hopes this will turn the public away from Bush, but in our guts we will know who these characters are. One is Kerry and the other is Hillary.