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Kansas GOP — a party divided
Kansas City (Missouri) Star ((you must be registered, but it is free.)) ^ | Wed, Jul. 28, 2004 | JIM SULLINGER

Posted on 07/28/2004 10:07:06 AM PDT by rface

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To: rface
Moderates also are seen as more likely to seek compromises with Democrats and Sebelius.

No that's dishonest. Moderates are given CREDIT for compromising with Democrats when the truth is that they AGREE with Democrats on many issues. The term "moderate" is very misused. They get praise for being liberals with an "R" by their name. There's no compromise in voting for what you wanted all along. It's a verbal game the media play. "Moderates" in Kansas are the most rigid ideologues you will ever want to meet. You'll get a liberal to compromise with you faster. See, they don't have to actually compromise. They get media praise every time they vote with the liberals on anything. Media praise translates into free fawning campaign publicity when it's time to run for re-election. When they ever do compromise it's because they've been bought off by the big media ideologues who do not represent the average Kansan.

21 posted on 07/28/2004 10:47:44 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: William Creel
I don't want to see Taff win, especially after they destroyed Vince Snowbarger

When a conservative is nominated (Klein, Snowbarger) then the moderates either sit it out of vote for Moore. When a moderate is nominated(Taff) then the conservatives stay home. Niether Taff or Kobach has said that they would support the other candidate if that candidate won. And Moore just keeps on winning....

22 posted on 07/28/2004 10:48:05 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: rface
"I never thought of Kansas as wishy-washy"

I thought I saw the end of Rockefeller Republicans when Nancy Kassebaum retired, but I guess I am wrong.


23 posted on 07/28/2004 10:50:14 AM PDT by Fast Ed97
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To: rface

THIS is "What's Wrong With Kansas". A bunch of RATs have changed parties and joined the GOP, since they know they could never control the legislature as RATs. These "moderate" RINOs are nothing but RAT agents undercover.


24 posted on 07/28/2004 10:51:02 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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I really want Vratil gone. I wish someone would put up a sign next to his signs that reads: "Vratil is a political cross-dresser."

On Taff, I REALLY REALLY REALLY want Kobach to win. I will support Taff if he wins ONLY because he is now saying he will vote for the FMA.

25 posted on 07/28/2004 10:51:17 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: MplsSteve

The conservative wing of the KS GOP isn't perfect; they have done some screw-ups themselves.

But seeing the utter vivitrol directed against Kline and that dude tho challenged Graves has turned me to the point that if I meet a moderate Republican out there, I will despise them as much as the Dems.

They have no conscience and simply REFUSE to support the Republican nominee if he is conservative.

It is disgusting. I vote for the Repub, even if he is a liberal weenie Republican.

The fact that the country club moderates CAN'T do the same when the nominee is a conservative Republican does not speak well of them.

It is time to loosen the vice grip the moderates have in this state once and for all!


26 posted on 07/28/2004 10:51:36 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: ozzymandus

Exactly. Many are flat out Democrats. We should learn from this and infiltrate Democrat politics in states where they dominate, making all kinds of demands for compromise and sellouts to the Republicans.


28 posted on 07/28/2004 10:52:56 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: MplsSteve
The answer is not (as some Freepers have suggested) that the moderates leave the party because they're supposedly not loyal Republicans.

And why not? Is there anything so stupid as a Republican going around bashing Christian churches, channeling Barry Lynn? Of course there is room for moderates in the GOP. But these folks are nuts, they want total control of the party and they're fundamentally opposed to conservatism.

29 posted on 07/28/2004 10:53:56 AM PDT by JohnnyZ
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To: aft_lizard

Again, it depends upon the definition of "moderate" and poll after poll on issues from gun control to the death sentence to abortion, to illegal aliens to the death penalty, indicates the majority of Americans are far more conservative then they are liberal.

Besides, the conservative position on all those issues is the morally correct one, and the only way MORE people don't believe in conservative ideology is due to the major edia, the entertainment field, and the "educational" establishment (brainwash them while they are young).


30 posted on 07/28/2004 11:06:42 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: JohnnyZ

Why can't the liberals be happy with ONE party, the one they already own, the Democrats?


31 posted on 07/28/2004 11:28:39 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (the Dems are talking healthcare, how September 10th of them)
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To: MplsSteve

“We will have no more of those candidates who are pledged to the same goals as our opposition and who seek our support. Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn’t make any sense at all.” — Ronald Reagan, 1965


32 posted on 07/28/2004 11:43:42 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: ZULU

Exactly.

As I was reading the article, I was formulating my reply. Then I found that you wrote it for me.

I've been arguing this same thing here in PA. Moderates are really liberals seeking a second route to power - the GOP.

RINOs or Moderates or liberal pubbies DO NOT add to the strength of the GOP. They only dilute the message and if elected send the wrong message about what we stand for. When we purge these factions, disaffected people will return to the GOP tent. It may not be as big, but it will be more unified and stronger.


33 posted on 07/28/2004 12:07:27 PM PDT by Badray (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown. RIP harpseal.)
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