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Will Barack Obama be Our Second “Black” President?
Intellectual Conservative ^ | July 27, 2004 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 07/27/2004 6:52:16 AM PDT by mrustow

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To: mrustow

Barack Obama identifies himself as black, Bob Herbert didn't invent that. And from the time of slavery, people with one black parent and one white parent have been identified by the larger society as black: first by law, then by custom. I know several black people who look white, but they just are not accepted as white or bi-racial in the white community so they self-identify as black where they are accepted and feel more comfortable.


21 posted on 07/27/2004 7:26:57 AM PDT by jordysmom
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To: ruiner

I Agree. That is so condesending and as Dr. Condoleezza Rice said, whenever some one says that about her, she thinks they have really said "oh the monkeys can speak". No one said "Mike Ditka is very well spoken".


23 posted on 07/27/2004 7:29:48 AM PDT by rave123
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To: wideawake

here's a question for you..what's the difference between Obama and Harold Ford?


24 posted on 07/27/2004 7:30:04 AM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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To: ken5050
here's a question for you..what's the difference between Obama and Harold Ford?

Ford is more businesslike (translate: boring) in his demeanor than Obama, Ford is just a Rep not a Senator-in-waiting, Obama comes from the Midwest which is a key region in this election and there are apparently a good number of black people who are not even aware that Ford is black.

25 posted on 07/27/2004 7:45:30 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: rave123

Condescending, thats the word I was looking for. It reminds me of a 50 year old commenting on how "well spoken" someone's 7 year old child is.

Goes to show that even the all inclusive Democrats have no idea of how African Americans feel. Its pretty obvious to most that "articulate" isn't a well received compliment to AAs.


26 posted on 07/27/2004 7:45:56 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: wideawake

and if Ford had been born 5 months earlier he'd be the VP nominee..


27 posted on 07/27/2004 7:47:00 AM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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To: ken5050

Are you sure about that?


28 posted on 07/27/2004 7:49:16 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake

absolutely..he missed being of Constitutional age to run by about 5 month 15 days...


29 posted on 07/27/2004 7:50:31 AM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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To: ken5050
I know that his age automatically disqualified him - but Ford appeals to exactly two constituencies: blacks, and whites who agree with Ford's far-left agenda.

Those two are sewed up already.

Breck Girl provides a patina of handsome "moderateness" to women swing voters who don't pay close attention.

30 posted on 07/27/2004 8:16:42 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake

Obviously, the question's moot...but Ford is a rising star in the party..he was an early backer of Kerry, and his best defender on the tube when Kerry's campaign was floundering...Ford's got a hard chocie to make.whether or not to challenge Frist in 06..originally..Frist had said he'd serve ONLY two terms..that was before he made majority leader..Ford's stymied..he 's very frustrated in the House..


31 posted on 07/27/2004 8:21:04 AM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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To: ruiner

It would be nice if someone would talk about this guy without saying "articulate" or "well spoken". People say it like its a surprise or something. Its annoying that people feel the need to mention how "articulate" black candidate are.



What do yo expect when dolts like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and their kind are continuously hurled to the top? Then when articulate, intelligent people like Colin Powell or Condi are up front and center they are labeled Uncle Toms because they won't chant the Demo party line. Ridiculous is what it is.


32 posted on 07/27/2004 8:22:21 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: Prolifeconservative
He needs to change his name to something else, anything that doesn't rhyme with Osama.

Good point. America is not likely to elect a president named Barack Obama.

33 posted on 07/27/2004 8:24:10 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: SunnySide

That can be said about any group of people. Its not brought up for anybody BUT black people.


34 posted on 07/27/2004 8:31:58 AM PDT by ruiner
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To: Brilliant; All

Beware of a DU disruptor. He used to go by the name of "Thanos." I guess he got banned, so he came back as "Thanoz." He's too much of a coward to debate issues on the forum, so instead he sends nasty, moronic FReepmails.


35 posted on 07/27/2004 8:35:57 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: demlosers
See also:

Barack Obama, Man of Faith

36 posted on 07/27/2004 8:40:15 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: demlosers
Obama is an intelligent, well-spoken candidate.

Maybe....but does anyone know where this guy stands on the issues?

Domestic: he wants to handcuff the police, and unleash violent criminals and social workers.

Foreign: he wants to handcuff the U.S. military, and unleash terrorists and UN workers.

37 posted on 07/27/2004 8:43:35 AM PDT by mrustow ("And when Moses saw the golden calf, he shouted out to the heavens, 'Jesus, Mary, and Joseph!'")
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To: jamesnwu
I'm so sick of hearing about how Obama "transcends partisanship" and whatnot, when everyone knows there are TWO and ONLY TWO groups supporting him: 1) Blacks who will vote for any black candidate 2) Rich white morons from affluent suburbs who will vote for whoever hates Bush/War/Bush.

That's simply not true. Obama is starting to do really well downstate. Sure, it wouldn't be happening if we had, you know, A GOP CANDIDATE, but it would probably still be happening. I hate most of his positions, but I do understand why people are so taken with the personality. And from a purely political standpoint, he's done a masterful job of dealing with the GOP implosion. He's said nice things about his potential opponents, hasn't gloated, and has kept running as if there was competition. He's smart, he's attractive, and he was 20 points ahead even before Jack Ryan embarrassed himself and the party.

But the real danger isn't Obama taking the Fitzgerald seat (which, let's face it, Fitzgerald has just been keeping warm for the Dems for the past six years). The real danger is that if there's no credible GOP senate candidate, and no chance for Bush to pick up Illinois, we may lose some of our house seats here (and maybe not just Crane's).

38 posted on 07/27/2004 8:53:22 AM PDT by LandOfLincolnGOP
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To: ken5050

>here's a question for you..what's the difference between Obama and Harold Ford?

Nobody has a problem spelling and pronouncing "Harold", or "Ford".


39 posted on 07/27/2004 8:55:55 AM PDT by Darnright
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