Posted on 07/26/2004 5:22:42 PM PDT by MindFire
Personally I wouldnt even get this "chip" put into my dog, when the vet tired to peddle it to me. if my dog were to 'run away' or 'be abducted', she can find her way home. What utter idiocy. They can take this diabolical garbage and shove it.
What say you?
Paranoia can be treated with drugs.
what's 'paranoid' about believing in privacy? Sounds like you perhaps have already 'partaken' of the 'drugs' you promote,- Perhaps it's your 'drugs' which have numbed any common sense or principle you may have ever had.
Dictators will love this.
Not! RFID needs a transmitter within about 3 feet or less to "xmit" back its code. Unless "they" place readers all along the way from the store to your house, they won't be tracking much. Reporters really should read up before they spew!
as evidenced, many of the sheeple will eat this up and stand in line to get it as son as it becomes available. sad, isn't it?
No one is as interested in you as you think. That's paranoia.
Also see:
http://www.rfidjournal.com/article/articleview/207
"www.nocards.org" Give me a break...I am not giving up my ATM card. Are they anti-barcode too? Should make for some interesting reading. I am all for privacy, but this borders on Luddism (http://carbon.cudenver.edu/~mryder/itc_data/luddite.html ) IMHO.
a guy named 'glenn' on an internet message board thinks he can make pronouncements about what 'everyone' or 'no one' thinks?
Do you really believe you speak for 'everyone', much less 'anyone', besides 'Glenn'?
And if so,... why?
If you have anything intelligent to the topic, feel free to contribute. Your attempts at insults are juvenile & a waste of time.
two words
ELECTRONIC JAMMING
That was an interesting link on Luddism; however, I don't think that's what CASPIAN is. They are on many mainstream shows addressing privacy issues, so I don't think the issue should be condemned as one of 'extremist old-fashioned kooks'.
They haven't advocated getting rid of ATM Cards. I personally do use ATM?credit cards, but this grocery card movement, if you read the actual dicuments,; including those of the grocers, you will see that these grocery cards are not about savings at all, and they admit as much. it is about data collection, which is a billion dollar business and an invasion of basic privacy. These records have been unknowingly kept on people and turned up, used against them in court cases, etc.
"What say you?"
I'd say this guy doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, as is true with most people who spout the RFID conspiracy theories.
The truth is that the majority of RFID's are not in the products, they're in the packaging. And often, since the cost of RFID'ing everything can be prohibitive as a % of item cost, they're usually just on one box that's inside a larger box of items.
So if you throw out the packaging, nobody is going to be able to track you as you walk down the street. About all the tracking they're going to be able to do is your garbage as it heads to the dump. As pointed out earlier, RFID has a rather limited range. Unless it's active RFID (which is even more cost prohibitive than passive RFID), the range can be limited to feet or yards.
RFID can be a great tool in supply chain management. No more looking for a lost pallet of merchandise in your 100,000 square foot warehouse - your network of RFID readers can tell you exactly where it is. It can put the items in inventory as they cross the dock and remove it as it leaves the dock.
My favorite was about 6 months ago when some kook thought there was RFID's in the new twenties - he nuked it in the microwave and the fact that the bills 'burned' was proof there was RFID in the bills.
I guess it never crossed his mind to try testing for actual RFID's with a reader...
The Dread Boston Salty is lojacked. He doesn't have any privacy concerns (we discussed it at length), and he agrees that he'd rather be located and returned to us quickly and safely than make a political statement.
Shhhhh . . . I'm watching him right now, but I don't want him to know, so please keep it on the down low.
OK...I guess I am just not as concerned as they are (I briefly scanned "NoCards.org"), your bank can "track" you thru their ATM card, they take a picture of you every time you use it at an ATM, etc. I just think the cat is out of the bag as far as "total privacy" is concerned. If you don't want the supermarket tracking what you buy, don't get their card. If most people were concerned about it, the supermarket in question would lose business and drop the cards. To go back to the old days we would have to get rid of SSN's, Drivers License #'s, Credit Cards, ATM cards, "Speed Passes", Toll Road x-ponders, Cell Phones (now with government mandated GPS location for 911 use), why no protest against that? The government can now track you via your Cell phone down to about 10 feet...(it was just to the nearest couple of cell towers). Does "NoCards.org" just care about Private companies tracking? But everything the govt. does is OK?? Oh well...rant over...
Actually, to be fair the RFID technology can be imbedded into ink; thereare mainstream stories from this in the EU. it is fact, not a 'wild theory'.
Whether or not you support this is another issue. i have talked to retail folks who see this as a harmless & good thing,.
Individual products have indeed been chipped in a test market, in gilette razor packaging and sold in WalMart stores. As the technology progresses the cost will not be as expensive. Walmrt is already demanding their suppliers implement this technology.
You got your dog chipped? Why not just put a dog collar on him? Better yet a fence in your yard, if the dog is unruly..Better yet, how about some dog training classes?
If your dog turns up mysteriously missing, ... you call the dog tracker police, or what? Then they use the tracker system and find him,.. how much would they charge for that? it seems comical. usually if a dog runs off, it usually either returns home soonafter or gets hit by a car, or is picked up by one of these 'do-gooders' and returned to the dog pound. if he has on a dog collar & tag, they simply call the owner. this tracker stuff just seems unnecessary for responsible pet owners.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.