Democrats back church IRS probe(separation of church and state')

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | July 24, 2004

[TommyDale]

Has God struck Barry Lynn dead yet?

[TheGeezer]

"These people will stop at nothing to silence churches," said Andrea Lafferty, of the Washington-based Traditional Values Coalition, which says it represents 43,000 churches.

Liberofascists will stop at nothing to silence their opposition, period. The churches are merely the last forum where liberofascist PC speech restrictions have not yet been codified. DEMOCRATS WANT TO RESTRICT SPEECH IN THE CHURCHES. Keep spreading that truth...

[TommyDale]

Why can't we monitor the churches where the Democrats campaign and file a similar complaint to the IRS? I think this would be a good project for this election year.

The other project that needs to be undertaken is to register and get out the vote at local churches. It is estimated that between 43 million to 75 million people who consider themselves Christians failed to vote in 2000.

[wgeorge2001]

[The party, the statement said, "looks forward to the day when all citizens may vote their conscience without their political beliefs being dictated to them by politically involved religious leaders, regardless of denomination."]

The communist democrat party continues it's assault against religious liberty (the Bible of Jesus Christ, God' only begotten son) under the guise of conscience being separate from political beliefs (my political beliefs are motivated by the doctrines of the Holy Bible, the infallible Word of the one true God and therefore I vote for those who support my Christian faith and they are not democrats or other left wing groups who hate God and Christ and love money and power); most bible believing Christians are right wing conservatives because the basic conservative platform of the right wing includes religious freedom, is pro life, allows witnessing to the lost, supports free speech (not politically correct speech which is communist speech and vicious against us who love Jesus and believe on Him for our salvation). This entails telling the world of the One true God and His holy child Jesus of Nazareth; how he died for our sins and rose again to justify us by grace through faith.
Barry Lynn is a communist democrat who pretends to be a saved Christian and yet would attack the children of Jesus Christ and throw them in jail because we believe all the doctrines of the Holy Bible; he is a foolish man and I personally believe a liar at best.
I stand on the Christian constitution as a defender of religious rights of practice and speech (we preach the gospel as our Lord Jesus Christ gave us to preach)to protect us from those who want and struggle to bring in an atheist government in America. This is the democrat party and they plan to attack conservative bible believing Christian's who trust that all truth is of God. The democrat party supports all things that deny the Word of God as truth and will bring in bloodshed if they take over the American government by deceiving the common working man that there is no God because they say so! When they die, they will go to the judgment of God and that judge is Jesus Christ, our sin sacrifice (lamb of God) and our Saviour and defender of the faith (lion of the tribe of Judah).
I feel so sorry for these foolish democrats who cut off their nose to spite their face.

[Belisaurius]

The other project that needs to be undertaken is to register and get out the vote at local churches.

That's why it's so important that our buddy Barry and likeminded dolts take this thing nationwide. Why spend Republican money on this when the libs are willing to do it for us?

[TommyDale]

It won't cost the Republicans one red cent to get churches to register members to vote. All it takes is one willing individual and a cooperative pastor/board with some backbone. Of course, that's asking too much these days.

[bereanway]

Pastor Floyd is standing on solid ground and he needs to stand tall. Lynn realizes there's not much he can do here but attempt to intimidate these pastors into silence. The Church in Pierce Creek NY which took out a full page ad in USA Today against Clinton back in the 90's lost their IRS letter ruling but didn't lose their tax exempt status. The court ruled that a church's tax exempt status is not dependent upon the IRS letter ruling.

First Baptist of Springdale is a large church (membership over 12,000) and Pastor Floyd is a prominent pastor. They're a big target and the ACLU, the dims and every other flavor of leftist nutzoid is hoping to silence this pastor and in so doing establish a precedent they can point to. From what I know about Pastor Floyd there's no way he backs down. Lynn is nothing more than a small yapping dog who has bitten off more than he can chew.

[Kuksool]

The Mainstream Coalition's agenda is clealry intended to scare churches into silence about Biblical Truth. But thanks to KS's Attorney General, Phil Kline, he has clarified what IRS regulations really say.

"Churches learn IRS do's, don'ts (The Truth Liberals Want Concealed)"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1173712/posts

[Gritty]

[Kuksool]

I am waiting for Barry Lynn to file a complaint against Je$$e Jackson and other liberal non-profit groups.

[Politically Correct]

Why can't we monitor the churches where the Democrats campaign and file a similar complaint to the IRS? I think this would be a good project for this election year.

No, I think that we should just stand for religious freedom.
Pastors should be able to say pretty much anything from the pulpit without gov interference.
The foundation for the tax exemption is not that the churches are apolitical, but rather that the gov doesn't tax God.

Of course Democrats would prefer to tax God, the ultimate rich individual, He owns it all.

[snarkytart]

Do not hold your breath.

It is like the ACLU saying that they find nothing wrong with the Islamic call to prayer being sent across loud speakers throughout the public square. You can bet that if a Christian preacher was on loudspeaker proclaiming Jesus died for your sins, the ACLU would have a major problem with it.

Until the Christian conservative movement goes into the street by the tens of thousands and demand this kind of thing stop..it will continue.

[MNnice]

Churches link poverty, politics

"http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/9230967.htm?1c"

[TommyDale]

Normally, I would agree with you. But this year it is critical to not allow the Democrats any advantage, which they currently enjoy by going after conservative churches. There is no effort from our side to suppress the liberal churches. While I do believe that all churches should be off limits to the government, I see no reason to allow the enemy all the advantages. Let's stop them this election, then pass a bill to protect all churches in the future of government interference.

If Bush would make that one campaign promise, he would win in a landslide.

[muawiyah]

Seems to me it's Barry Lynn's organization that's supporting one candidate over the other by seeking to misuse the IRS to silence one side.

Time to fight back against this demon spawn of hell ~ tie him up in litigation with federal bureaucrats for an eternity.

I can assist someone one who wishes to nail Americans-United.... nonprofit mailing authorization as well.

[Kuksool]

Ditto.

The only way to implement effective reform is to spread the hurt around. As long as only conservatives are the ones complaining, then there will be no incentive to enact reform by the general public.

[McGavin999]

Unbelievable! It appears Mr. Lynn is trying to use the government to impose HIS religion on the rest of the country.

[Politically Correct]

Normally, I would agree with you. But this year it is critical to not allow the Democrats any advantage, which they currently enjoy by going after conservative churches. There is no effort from our side to suppress the liberal churches. While I do believe that all churches should be off limits to the government, I see no reason to allow the enemy all the advantages. Let's stop them this election, then pass a bill to protect all churches in the future of government interference.

No, it's never different this year.
Just stand on your principles.
After all if the IRS does decide to revoke this church's tax exemption then the precident can be applied to all churches and even the Dims know that means all those black churches that they regularly campaign in.

[bereanway]

If it comes to the point that pastors cannot teach and preach from the Bible in their church's without private and government monitors and interference then we've lost. It hasn't really happened yet but various groups around the country are attempting to impose upon preaching within the church standards which are opposed to the whole counsel of God's Word. At that point the church has been coopted by the state and is no longer able to fulfill it's biblical mandate. That is the ultimate goal of those on the left.

As you stated to those on the left taxes are the ultimate form of control and would symbolize subservience of the church to state.

[TommyDale]

Standing on principles is what got us into this over 50 years ago. We have sat back on our "principles" and allowed the Supreme Court and the liberals to run over us. No more!