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Florida DOT Plans To Start Tracking Local Drivers
WFTV ^ | July 21, 2004 | WFTV

Posted on 07/22/2004 6:12:38 PM PDT by Mulder

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To: Mulder
Large dot-matrix advisory signs were recently installed over several major feeder streets to I4 and toll roads. I drive under one close to my house (rarely in either rush hour) and have noted the transponder-enabled messages like "Crash On I4 WB Lanes Closed" or "Congestion At Maitland Interchange 10 mn Delay" or "AMBER ALERT...etc., etc." The transponders are optional -- both in their use and placement within a vehicle. Personally, I keep mine in my truck's center console, and pop it up on the dash temporarily when I transit a toll booth. BB isn't watching me this way. BTW The transponders are initially "read" within the 1/2 mile before you get to the booth; the system verifying you and your account status before you roll through.
21 posted on 07/22/2004 7:55:26 PM PDT by Orbiter
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To: Mulder

just put the EZPASS tag into an anti-static shielded bag, it can't be read in there. i do it everyday.


22 posted on 07/22/2004 7:58:01 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Mulder

If you do nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear.
We are At War now.
It's for The Children.


23 posted on 07/22/2004 7:59:46 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: oceanview
just put the EZPASS tag into an anti-static shielded bag, it can't be read in there. i do it everyday.

True, but we Americans shouldn't have to go around like that.

Whoever thought up this tyrannical idea of tracking Americans needs to move to Russia or China. It is simply unAmerican.

24 posted on 07/22/2004 8:08:47 PM PDT by Mulder (All might be free if they valued freedom, and defended it as they should.-- Samuel Adams)
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To: Mulder

at least in the NY metro area, they use it to track traffic patterns by seeing how fast a transponder moves from point A to point B along a particular highway. they give this information back to automated traffic systems and radio traffic reports. I haven't heard of any stories of misuse yet. I think if they started issuing traffic tickets with them, people would be dropping EZPASS in droves.


25 posted on 07/22/2004 8:12:30 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Mulder

H. User acknowledges and agrees that the Authority may use the
transponder, or may authorize any other government agency to use
the transponder, to collect anonymous traffic, travel, or other
statistical information. The Authority will not use or assist any other
entity using this data in a way that would associate User’s personal
identifying information with the anonymous information obtained.
Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Authority has no duty or obligation
to User in contravention of its legal obligations under the Florida
Public Records Act or any other law or regulation, as the same may
be from time to time amended.


I. User acknowledges and agrees that the Authority has no control over
third parties’ technological capabilities or use of electronic signal
readers that may be capable of detecting the Authority’s E-PASS
transponder signals. User agrees to hold harmless the Authority from
any and all damages, actual or perceived, incurred by User as a
result of any such third party action or third party use of information
obtained from such detection.


26 posted on 07/22/2004 8:16:34 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Mulder

After this has been ongoing, for a while, they will have proof that the transponders can help save "THE CHILDREN", by electronically catching speeders,whom "will only be sent a warning",in the mail.

Florida will make it mandatory for ALL vehicles to be equipped with a transponder.

Then, they will decide, the second time someone's transponder is caught speeding will be a fineable offence.


27 posted on 07/22/2004 8:30:19 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Jaysun; Paleo Conservative; eno_; deport; Carry_Okie; suijuris; Doctor Stochastic; Indie; ...

The conversation about our intrusive government continues here today.


28 posted on 07/23/2004 1:46:06 AM PDT by B4Ranch (We're going to take things away from you (guns) on behalf of the common good." Hillary 6/29/2004)
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To: B4Ranch

Many of the same discussions were had when GM introduced the black box for its top end cars. In the first year out, there was a court case where the data was used in prosecution to prove the driver didn't brake before the airbags deployed. This Florida system will be used in the same way because, as clinton would say, they can.


29 posted on 07/23/2004 1:54:50 AM PDT by glock rocks (will you tell me a story?)
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To: glock rocks

I do recall somethings about the trial. Not much tho.


30 posted on 07/23/2004 2:53:39 AM PDT by B4Ranch (We're going to take things away from you (guns) on behalf of the common good." Hillary 6/29/2004)
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To: B4Ranch
Car-crash recorders 'Black boxes' are moving from airliners to autos

Haseltine noted that the sensors helped GM win a lawsuit filed by the family of Jerome Brown, the NFL star killed in a 1992 accident. The family contended the air bag in his Chevrolet Corvette had deployed early.

-- snip --

Vetronix has sold about 1,000 of its black-box downloading systems to customers who include the California Highway Patrol.

"It's an unbiased witness," Gilman said. "It will tell you information, and if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."

31 posted on 07/23/2004 3:24:47 AM PDT by glock rocks (will you tell me a story?)
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To: philetus; Mulder
After this has been ongoing, for a while, they will have proof that the transponders can help save "THE CHILDREN", by electronically catching speeders,whom "will only be sent a warning",in the mail.

Florida will make it mandatory for ALL vehicles to be equipped with a transponder.

Then, they will decide, the second time someone's transponder is caught speeding will be a fineable offence.

The third offense the state will take your children away and get a court order declaring you an unfit parent. The will put your children in foster care with a gay "married" couple.

32 posted on 07/23/2004 5:49:03 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: itsahoot

My cell phone broadcasts when it is on, like all cell phones...but it does not broadcast my position..all anyone could know is what area of reception I am in, and that can be more than one.


33 posted on 07/23/2004 5:57:39 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: expatpat

Exactly..if people are in so much of a hurry, that they cannot stop to pay a toll, then this is part of the price for being in a hurry...no one is forcing anyone to get an EZPass, and I seriously doubt that mandatory EZPasses could be enforced...just don't put any batteries in it.


34 posted on 07/23/2004 6:00:07 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: The Red Zone

That's already being done in a number of states. There's no control over what the govt puts on their poles, but there is a lot of control over what is in your personal vehicle.


35 posted on 07/23/2004 6:02:10 AM PDT by stuartcr
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To: Mulder
I was born and raised in Florida. After living away for 20 years we moved back and continue to live here.

I have never seen a toll road in Florida.

Of course I have never been South of Orlando either, and that was many years ago.

36 posted on 07/23/2004 6:12:18 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog

I just remembered, there is a toll bridge across Santa Rosa Sound, or there used to be. Haven't been to Fort Pickens in 30 years.


37 posted on 07/23/2004 6:14:12 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: glockmeister40

I agree that there could be a problem in the future, so let's keep our powder dry until then.


39 posted on 07/23/2004 6:24:20 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: PistolPaknMama

See #39.


40 posted on 07/23/2004 6:25:37 AM PDT by expatpat
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