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The EXPLANATION: Sandy Berger is covering up Bill Clinton’s GREATEST CRIME (2004)
Free Republic | 7-2-0-04 | Bill Charleston

Posted on 07/20/2004 7:44:02 PM PDT by BILL_C

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To: BILL_C
Interesting, but....the biggest crime Bill Clinton committed as president... was selling technology to the Chinese. It will be decades before the impact of that is known (i.e. full-blown war with China). But it will happen and it will make this whole matter look trivial.
101 posted on 07/21/2004 4:13:08 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas ("There are two Americas, unfortunately for Edwards, neither one voted for him." Conan O'Brien)
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To: BILL_C

We knew before the terrorist struck that the Clintons had plenty of Arkansas blood on their greedy little hands.

These two slugs make Marie Antoinette and Napoleon look like Mother Theresa. Mark my words the Clintons will go down in flaming history as the two most (the only) scandalous anti-Americans to have occupied the White House ie., who needs enemies with traitorous leaders like them.


102 posted on 07/21/2004 4:18:28 AM PDT by SunnySide
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To: SFConservative

> why foreign terrorists would participate in the OKC and TWA800 attacks but then fail to claim credit

If they noticed that the Clinton administration was covering for them, why would they blow that cover right away? They could get more done if they kept quiet about it.


103 posted on 07/21/2004 5:14:22 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: BILL_C

Big things don't happen by "accident"...


104 posted on 07/21/2004 5:14:59 AM PDT by Gritty ("Clinton Legacy:the holiday from history from the fall of the Berlin Wall to the fall of WTC-M Steyn)
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To: zeaal
And then - poof - the entire APB changed and not another mentione of the truck or the men.

I was in the United Arab Emirates when it happend. The next day the paper was gleefully reporting that it was Americans that had done this, and not someone from the middle east.

105 posted on 07/21/2004 5:28:55 AM PDT by MP5
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To: MP5

Bill and Hitlary Clinton leaked this story!

They knew it was going to come out, and As with others in the past they leaked it and put their spin on it at the Beginning of the news cycle.

This has the Clinton prints all over it.


106 posted on 07/21/2004 5:37:44 AM PDT by Area51 (RINO Hunter, Big Time.)
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To: BILL_C

Bill_C huh? Just between me, you and the lamppost, Bill, is there anything else you need to get off your chest? Have you decided to come clean? Stir some things up to keep that spotlight burning? Throw some gas on the political convention fire?

I always figured you to be a lurker... ;-)


107 posted on 07/21/2004 5:39:29 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Peach

I like your theory about OKC and TWA 800




Well, it's Jayna Davis' work that makes this totally believable. Jayna proved beyond any doubt that McVeigh and Nichols did not act alone. When she proved that Iraqis participated, the question has to be asked "Why the coverup?"

The answer is there was a reason for the coverup and it was political. As some have arqued that China getting Nuclear Technology is the biggest crime, I would not put that in the paper if I wrote it again as it detracts from the basic message: Two Conspiracy events that happened before the 1996 election are tied to foreign terrorists.

Given the fact that Iraqis killed Americans in 1995 in OKC, Clinton would have had no choice but to do what GWB has done in the last two years. I bet Clinton would now do the "right" thing if he could do those years again. But he didn't. He lied and people died because of it.

Clinton in one of his interviews recently (either CBS or Larry King) said that he was wise to make sure nobody jumped to conclusions about foreign involvement in OKC.

Jayna Davis makes a big point about the change of emphasis in OKC. To me, it all makes sense now:

The 9-11 trashing of the NYC fire department

Richard Clark's testimony

Atta's involvement in both WTC and training/sighting in OKC etc.


108 posted on 07/21/2004 6:01:43 AM PDT by BILL_C
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To: BILL_C

Jayna's book is a must read and the most researched believable book.

I've recommended freepers buy a book and donate it to the local library so it gets more coverage.


109 posted on 07/21/2004 6:11:33 AM PDT by Peach
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To: BILL_C

Bill C;

You've done some incredible connecting the dots.
I think that you should modify your presentation slightly to incorporate your further comments on this thread, as well as other contributions, and get this synopsis to the Wall St. Journal.

I think the Journal is the only main stream widely read media outlet that has the balls and the research capability to build on your thesis and take it to the world public.

Great Job!!


110 posted on 07/21/2004 6:16:53 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: Gritty

Big things don't happen by "accident"...




Nothing could be truer.

Quit thinking CONSPIRACY THEORY and start asking WHY.

The WHY here is the abuse of PRESIDENTIAL power. Nobody else can pull the strings to make an Oklahoma City happen.

9-11 is a direct result of Clinton covering up foreign involvement in the bombing. If you don't believe that's true, please at least listen to her WARROOM interview.

http://archives.warroom.com/archives.php

Listen to the segment approximately 1 hr 20 minutes


111 posted on 07/21/2004 6:21:37 AM PDT by BILL_C
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To: baseballmom
'My personal view is that GWB is trying to protect the PRESIDENCY - not Bill Clinton - but the office of President of the United States.'

This has always been my thought. But I believe W is also concerned with the legality of various issues. This may be part of his strategery - don't misunderestimate him. He may not want to be seen as 'going after' the toon, but may want to make sure certain things become known.

112 posted on 07/21/2004 6:34:09 AM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: BILL_C

I hope by some miracle this all is exposed and that prevaricating, treasonous sexual predator and his black widowesque consort are nailed to the wall.

It would great for Clinton to go down in history as not only the second president to be impeached, but the first to do time. (I wonder if he would still get secret service protection in the slammer?)


113 posted on 07/21/2004 6:35:53 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ovrtaxt

Blindness can do that.


114 posted on 07/21/2004 6:55:43 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies: foreign and domestic RATmedia agree Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: GLDNGUN

I believe you are on to something.


115 posted on 07/21/2004 7:03:06 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies: foreign and domestic RATmedia agree Bush must be destroyed.)
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To: .30Carbine

If this news of Sandy Bergler was "leaked" for political reasons (by the Pubbies that is) it would have been two or three weeks before the election not the convention. The "curious timing" canard is a dog that don't hunt.


116 posted on 07/21/2004 9:14:47 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: mathluv
He may not want to be seen as 'going after' the toon, but may want to make sure certain things become known.

He needs a pressing 'cry for justice' in order to pursue it. That's just political reality. Skeletons never stay in the closet. Sick Willy's time is coming.

117 posted on 07/21/2004 9:19:56 AM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: SFConservative; BILL_C
What I have been missing in these theories is why foreign terrorists would participate in the OKC and TWA800 attacks but then fail to claim credit and threaten more of the same or worse. I haven't been following the discussions on these theories in any detail, so I may have missed the explanation. Can you fill me in on the thinking on that question?

Let me try for you. And Bill_C, please consider adding this bit of explanatory theory to your own.

Laurie Mylroie has documented that Iraqis were involved in the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993. Now, it is possible that the Clinton administration never figured this out, but that is not necessary to carry the theory forward.

That WTC bombing failed. However, Iraq was determined to bring down those towers. They knew that a van full of explosives would not do it. So they had to experiment with other ways to bring down a large building.

The Murrah Building bomb was a test bombing, to see if a bomb powerful enough to bring down a building could be stuffed into an innocuous looking small truck that could be driven into lower Manhattan. But this bomb, too, failed to bring down the building. This is why we have seen no more truck bombings in the U.S. And why the Iraqis did not take credit for the OKC bombing.

So, what to do next? What else could produce an explosive powerful enough to bring down the World Trade Center?

Perhaps an exploding jumbo jet? Al Qaeda terrorists in Asia had been plotting for a while to bomb several jets and even try crashng one into the CIA. The Iraqi intelligence got this information and began planning a test bombing of a plane to see what the explosive power would be. They even asked Al Qaeda to do it for them. Al Qaeda was happy to oblige. This was TWA 800. It was a success. (I happen to believe there was a bomb on the plane rather than a missle fired at it.) It was bombed close to shore so that lots of data on the explosion would be available. Again, no one takes credit because this was only a test for the real thing.

Next, they needed to see if they could get a pilot to deliberately crash an airplane. They did, on the Egypt Air flight that crashed in New York Harbor.

So, all the tests had been run to show that the World Trade Center towers could be brought down by training suicide pilots to crash airplanes into the towers. All that was needed was to find the hijacking teams, train them (which I believe was done at the Salman Pak training camp in Iraq) and let them go.

And Iraq got the ultimate payback on the U.S. for the 1991 Gulf War. And by using Al Qaeda to carry out the attack, Saddam Hussein's fingerprints were not on it. Al Qaeda thought it would benefit by the astonishing exercise of its power which would help it attract new recruits and funding. And, of course, all of them assumed that the U.S. government would do nothing, because Bill Clinton did nothing after all of their previous test attacks.

118 posted on 07/21/2004 9:52:28 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (Proud to be a Reagan Alumna!)
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To: Gritty

Big Things......Now, who likes to stir the pot and then
rhetorizes so innocently? Guess who is more worried than
anyone else that the K-Ed..team may actually pull aan upset?
Who really wants an open Presidential nominmation from both
parties in 2008?.....When you come up with the answer..you
will have a pretty good read on all this..HAM-"BURGER" DEAL.. A brou-ha-ha....well planned and for the right effect...You Know and I Know -we all know !! Jake


119 posted on 07/21/2004 10:02:15 AM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: ovrtaxt
Al-Qaida-OKC link included in Berger doc?

Jayna Davis, author of "The Third Terrorist: The Middle Eastern Connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing," points out the writing of the report was in the same timeframe Yossef Bodansky, former director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare, confirmed that Dr. Ayman Al-Zawahiri, one of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden's lieutenants, traveled to Oklahoma City in the spring of 1995 " to insure the smooth execution of the pending terrorist strike against the Murrah federal complex," said Davis.

Mrs. Davis may be correct and it would not surprise me if this theory was vetted before she went public with it. Additionally, U.S. intelligence operative Ali Mohamed was escorting Al-Zawahiri during his spring of 1995 U.S. travels, which included OKC. The 9-11 "mastermind" Khalid Mohammed was in OKC in 1995 prior to the bombing, as well.

120 posted on 07/21/2004 11:27:30 AM PDT by swampfx
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