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New GOP gay-ban tactics Court powers could be taken away, says majority leader
The Hill ^ | July 15, 2004 | Jonathan E. Kaplan

Posted on 07/18/2004 7:35:18 PM PDT by paltz

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1 posted on 07/18/2004 7:35:20 PM PDT by paltz
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To: paltz

Sheesh, what a can of worms.


2 posted on 07/18/2004 7:36:38 PM PDT by Kackikat (,)
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3 posted on 07/18/2004 7:37:25 PM PDT by counterpunch (The CouNTeRPuNcH Collection - www.counterpunch.us)
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To: counterpunch

Please tell me this is satirical...please?


4 posted on 07/18/2004 7:38:34 PM PDT by ECM
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To: paltz
Leaders will take their first step next week when they take up Rep. John Hostettler’s (R-Ind.) “jurisdiction stripping” bill. This would bar federal courts from hearing lawsuits related to gay sex and marriage.

I'd back this a lot more than a constitutional amendment.

It's high time these activist judges like that tyrant Stephen Reinhardt, are reigned in.

5 posted on 07/18/2004 7:39:20 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("With the Great White Buffalo, he's gonna make a final stand" - Ted Nugent)
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To: counterpunch

Is that actually real, or is it a Saturday Night Live type thing.


6 posted on 07/18/2004 7:40:25 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("With the Great White Buffalo, he's gonna make a final stand" - Ted Nugent)
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To: counterpunch

how screwed up in the head can you get?


7 posted on 07/18/2004 8:04:11 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: Kackikat

More than one way to skin a cat!


8 posted on 07/18/2004 8:04:21 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: America is the Greatest Nation on the Face of the Earth)
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To: drlevy88; counterpunch
how screwed up in the head can you get?

What do you mean? They're DemocRATS.

9 posted on 07/18/2004 8:14:23 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (uDo not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Dan from Michigan

Maybe the sexually charged comment about Kerry and Edwards wasn't in there, but I'd bet on the rest.


10 posted on 07/18/2004 8:14:40 PM PDT by drlevy88
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To: paltz
"They’re [politically astute]. But the Senate jumped the gun, which puts us in an awkward situation,"/

Apparently, I'm not the only one who thinks the FMA was rushed to a vote too soon. The White House political people observed that in 2000, there were 4 million Evangelicals who didn't vote. They decided that the FMA would be their strategy for making sure this didn't happen again. So they decided to have an early FMA vote to force liberal senators from red states (e.g. Tom Daschle) to vote pro-homosexual. But in the event, they were 12 votes shy of cloture, so they didn't get the vote itself. The two Johns didn't even bother showing up to vote, they didn't need to. Ouch! So by turning marriage into wedge politics, I'm afraid they may have guaranteed gay marriage in all 50 states.

As for the idea of passing legislation to limit the powers of judges, is this really a good idea? There's a reason there's a judiciary: it is a check on legislative and executive power. We might regret taking away their power someday. But in the meanwhile, it looks a bit desperate to talk of such things. Kind of like FDR trying to stack the Supreme Court in the 1930s by making it have 15 justices, when the Court ruled against his socialist programs.

11 posted on 07/18/2004 8:15:27 PM PDT by megatherium
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including stripping federal courts of jurisdiction over the issue

They are getting closer FINALLY!

How about forcing the judicial activists OFF the bench through the impeachment proceedings since they have been breaking the laws now with impunity for several decades now!

Nah --- those damned rinos have no guts!


12 posted on 07/18/2004 8:17:48 PM PDT by steplock ( www.spadata.com)
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"As for the idea of passing legislation to limit the powers of judges, is this really a good idea? There's a reason there's a judiciary: it is a check on legislative and executive power."

I understand your concern, but the checks and balances haven't worked for a long time. The courts must be brought into line. If congress has the constitutional power to limit court juridictions, now is the time to try it. Yes, there is a risk it could get out of hand - but like I said, the courts already are. Maybe it will sober up drunken liberal judges to the fact they are not above the "consent of those ruled."


13 posted on 07/18/2004 8:36:18 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: ECM

This item is an example of excellent satire. Why?

Because it too easily could be real. Does anyone have a single doubt how NAMBLA members will contribute and vote?

But the tip-off is the "Peter Herman" as in "Pee-Wee".


14 posted on 07/18/2004 8:51:23 PM PDT by John Valentine ("The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein)
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To: paltz
All the legislative action on gay marriage is currently in the Senate, but the House GOP is rapidly developing its own tactics. Leaders will take their first step next week when they take up Rep. John Hostettler’s (R-Ind.) “jurisdiction stripping” bill. This would bar federal courts from hearing lawsuits related to gay sex and marriage.

My Congressman at work!!! Go get em John.

15 posted on 07/18/2004 8:52:37 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: counterpunch

May I ask where you found that? I'd like to find a link to it so I can use it in an ongoing debate in our neighborhood over Kerry vs. Bush.

Thanks!


16 posted on 07/18/2004 8:58:06 PM PDT by Tamzee (Flush the Johns before they flood the White House!)
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To: paltz

What is the argument behind the claim that:
State 'A' (or fed) must recognize (all) the
marriages of State 'B' ?


17 posted on 07/18/2004 9:04:08 PM PDT by greasepaint
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To: CyberAnt

"If skinning cats is your thing"...Personally it seems a bit messy. Cats, worms, snakes, its all pretty weird I'd say.


18 posted on 07/18/2004 9:16:36 PM PDT by Kackikat (,)
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To: Dan from Michigan

I can't wait to see how they will handle the divorces from the Massachusetts gay marriages. That will be a hoot...Gee whose clothes are whose, and who gets what, its coming!


19 posted on 07/18/2004 9:18:47 PM PDT by Kackikat (,)
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To: John Valentine

Pee Wee is a pervert, as is NAMBLA, I think those people should have to register as sex offenders in every state.


20 posted on 07/18/2004 9:22:09 PM PDT by Kackikat (,)
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