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LARGE BRUSH FIRE - **FOOTHILL FIRE** LA COUNTY - PLACERITA CYN - SAND CYN - NEWHALL
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Posted on 07/17/2004 4:05:43 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: ridesthemiles

Your post makes it sound like the water was released to build swimming pools....not the case.

http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/9961342p-10882997c.html

"Folsom Lake is a workhorse," he said, often tapped to help water-quality standards in the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta, as well as farms and cities that draw water from the Delta.

Three months ago, federal authorities released about 100,000 acre feet of water from Folsom Dam - enough for 200,000 households - to reduce salinity levels in the estuary. Dam operators also released water to open flood-storage space in the reservoir, an insurance policy in case Sacramento got hit by a late-season storm.

>>>Water for crops is being shorted, also, so food production is taking a hit so that So Cal homes can have pools. And before you flame me, I lived there for 29 years, and I never understood the overwhelming need for everyone to have a pool when they were used VERY LITTLE.


61 posted on 07/17/2004 10:01:51 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Update from our local news right now (for whatever it's worth!):

Temecula "sage" fire has 500 homes evacuated currently

Foothill fire evacuated a nature center and ____ homes in ___ (couldn't keep it) (Newhall)...they said it so fast I didn't catch all the details on it.

Residents in Angeles home (Lake Hughes) had been evacuated since Monday...full containment expected by Friday


62 posted on 07/17/2004 10:04:46 PM PDT by mfccinsd
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To: mfccinsd

LASD took two people into custody in the evacuation area....suspected looters.


63 posted on 07/17/2004 10:12:12 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: mfccinsd

Foothill Fire evacuated Placerita Cyn and Sand Cyn to College of the Canyons.

A lot of people werent leaving.


64 posted on 07/17/2004 10:13:49 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

They're estimating 30% containment on Foothills fire but daybreak will tell the tale..that's when it heats up of course, and the winds pick back up. It's an eerie night in the desert since the smoke had cut visibility. No lights in the distance, no stars. It's eerie out there.


65 posted on 07/17/2004 10:19:23 PM PDT by lainie
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Sierra Hwy and Sand Canyon Rd shut down now. KNX


66 posted on 07/17/2004 10:20:45 PM PDT by lainie
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To: mfccinsd

the SAGE incident ordered 30 Type 3 Strike Teams....150 engines...(but the small wildland ones)

you are going to see them coming from NoCal all night and tomorrow...


67 posted on 07/17/2004 10:25:45 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

the SAGE incident being streamed here:

http://www.live365.com/stations/kb6jag


68 posted on 07/17/2004 10:27:21 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: mfccinsd

Evacuation centre for the Sage fire is at the Hemet High School, which is down the hill. I have no idea how many people have been relocated there.

Livestock evac teams have not been seen yet (as of 20 minutes ago), but they'll be around. In the October 2003 Mountain fire, I was diverted from my police department to field calls at the Sage fire station and help coordinate the evacuations of persons and livestock. We ended up minding scores of children, my youngest one included, while their parents assisted in the evac efforts. Thank God a fire station's fridge is always full! There was no getting off the hill to find food for all those hungry mouths.

Incidents like those make you glad to be a part of the effort and some of the behind-the-scenes events are often as dramatic as the fires themselves.

We live in a country that unites in times of crises like these fires and that makes me proud.

Maureen


69 posted on 07/17/2004 10:28:55 PM PDT by MaureenO
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To: MaureenO

That's a great story. :-)


70 posted on 07/17/2004 10:31:42 PM PDT by lainie
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To: BurbankKarl

Apparantly another fire has started in the Palm Springs area. One was just put out there after having burned for a week. There is smoke filling the Cochella Valley from this new fire.


71 posted on 07/17/2004 10:34:59 PM PDT by BJungNan (RELEASE THE CELEBRITY HATE TAPES)
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To: MaureenO

well, the people in Santa Clarita are generous to their FFs....they said Dominoes showed up with 20 pizzas to the Sheriffs Command Post, unasked.


72 posted on 07/17/2004 10:36:42 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: lainie

I'm sorta inbetween....in OC. THANKS for the ping!!!


73 posted on 07/17/2004 10:38:35 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Michael Reagan was the CHOSEN son!!!!)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Well aren't YOU just the sweetest thing?

I notice you're too embarrassed to put YOUR state flag up. Hope wherever you live is never hit with a disaster!


74 posted on 07/17/2004 10:40:39 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Michael Reagan was the CHOSEN son!!!!)
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To: BJungNan

Karl, another fire just broke? There'll be no end to it, I'm afraid, in this heat.

Maureen


75 posted on 07/17/2004 10:44:02 PM PDT by MaureenO
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To: BurbankKarl
oh YIKES!

Those shots look like they could have come directly from my aunt's backyard!

I remember being out there last October, watching the other fire come over from Simi into Santa Clarita. I dont' miss living under those foothills one bit.

Stay safe out there, all.

76 posted on 07/17/2004 10:45:37 PM PDT by kstewskis (BUSH-GIBSON 2004)
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To: sf4dubya; BurbankKarl
Can you put me on your So. Cal fire ping list, if you have one?

If one gets started, I'd like to be on it too. Thanks.

77 posted on 07/17/2004 10:52:45 PM PDT by kstewskis (BUSH-GIBSON 2004)
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To: sf4dubya; BurbankKarl
You two seem to be up on these, and it looks to be a long summer. If a ping list is made, add me on too.
78 posted on 07/17/2004 10:56:29 PM PDT by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: BurbankKarl

BurbankKarl, you have no idea how much the firefighters appreciate the generousity of the neighbours. They consider themselves fortunate to be able to serve such fine people.

My husband still tears up when he talks about some incidents where the locals brought by cookies, meat loaf, fresh bread, fruit. He still loves to talk about the elderly fellow who brought up a basket of fresh peaches that he'd picked for the FF's. The gentleman chugged up in a bockety Jeep, black exhaust billowing from the tail pipe's remnants and no plates, but he risked the ticket to bring them some of "life's blood."

And a few years ago during the floods, two elderly women trundled in all the way over from Crossover Road with a vat of steaming chicken soup and a tin of hot buns.

Those people may not know it, but those vats of soup and baskets of fruit feed the FF's souls, perhaps more than they feed their bodies.

Maureen


79 posted on 07/17/2004 10:56:49 PM PDT by MaureenO
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The Sage fire's cause is now known: it was someone conducting target practice. He's been identified, will be cited, might be held accountable for the cost of the suppression of the fire.


80 posted on 07/17/2004 11:11:09 PM PDT by lainie
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