The Pornography Plague

Leadership U ^ | Kerby Anderson

[Phantom Lord]

We are all still waiting for you to provide the laws that make the production of porn illegal.

And again, as previously pointed out several times, if the production of porn is ILLEGAL as you claim, then why is Vivid Video traded on the NYSE?

Face facts, porn is legal. Period.

[Phantom Lord]

Something like a hostage situation seems more like your style

Ala Rainbow Head

[malakhi]

Prostitution harms people. Viewing filmed prostitution makes you an accesory to the crime. The crime was committed for your enjoyment.

Prostitution is not illegal in every jurisdiction in this country. Neither is the making of porn. Unless you have some evidence proving otherwise?

[Tailgunner Joe]

Even the 26,250 figure would not be three times the numbers of McDonalds

But it still supports the the thesis of the article.

[malakhi]

But it still supports the the thesis of the article.

On the contrary. By virtue of being demonstrably false, it undermines the author's credibility.

[Long Cut]

Umm...I DID refute it, in the post linked. You lied and used spin. You were caught, and did NOT retract. Thus, you have no credibility.

You've also been caught in numerous misstatements of fact, as well as fallacies of logic, right here.

Now, it seems you're getting mad. Getting too hot for ya?

[jejones]

That claim may be a Clintonian "it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is" bit of weaseling. For example, if the person making the claim thinks that every convenience store that has "adult" magazines for sale is an "adult bookstore," then there might well be more of them than McDonalds.

[Tailgunner Joe]

You've made no attempt to even find out how many adult bookstores there are in the U.S. You have only relied on my sources which you yourself impugn. You don't even know when this article was written.

[tpaine]

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel? Nope. Jury nullification is.
-BumpkinBob-

[Robert_Paulson2]

I was attempting to agree with your post 11.
I additionally added my thougts that using a 20 year old panel report by an attorney general NOT in offced to define and restrict "free speech" was a pathetic premise.

If I misunderstood your disagreement with the thesis in general... sorry... Can I assume you agree with the article that was posted then?

or did I understand properly that you generally disagree and that you thought the original poster is asking for a good smackdown again... as you perhaps intimated in your post 11?

[Phantom Lord]

You have only relied on my sources

You mean when debating you we should NOT rely on your sources when arguing against your position?

Later you posted another source that also proved your original source to be a lie.

You have 2 options. Get better sources or quit posting on FR.

[Phantom Lord]

or did I understand properly that you generally disagree and that you thought the original poster is asking for a good smackdown again... as you perhaps intimated in your post 11?

That would be correct. I either am not paying attention, totally misread your post to me, or need a beer. All 3 actually.

I got the impression from your post that you thought I was in full support of Tailgunner Joe and his outrageous claims and statements.

[Poohbah]

He's already engaged in the third option: threatening to kill those who disagree with him. He later tried to say that it was just a joke.

[SanityFromTheLeftCoast]

Absolutely, you make an excellent point. Now would you say that your an above average parent, average, or below average? Now when I ask that question, I'm thinking about all the gangland violence and perponderance rap music in my environment.

So the question becomes, how do we perserve and balance your right to raise your children as you see fit, with the rights of other children to have a better chance than given to them by their gang familes, and crack, alcohol, or work addicted parents?

They're the ones suffering because their parents, not you, refuse to provide the support and supervision they need? And in turn there is a greater chance of them causing havoc, needing welfare, etc.

I am not saying that more government is the answer. I am suggesting that philosophically, we need to change our attitude of avoiding conflict and start ensuring that the world is the place where "we" would want to be raised.

If we do the job, the government will have no need to step in and do it for us.

[jejones]

And where does Burger King fit into all this?

I don't know...OTOH, I never understood why the founder of Wendy's would want to associate his daughter's name with the phrase "hot and juicy," either.

[malakhi]

You don't even know when this article was written.

The "20 times the number of adult bookstores" quote you cited comes from an article entitled "The Business of Pornography", written by Eric Schlosser, and published in the February 10, 1997 edition of US News & World Report.

[Phantom Lord]

So the question becomes, how do we perserve and balance your right to raise your children as you see fit, with the rights of other children to have a better chance than given to them by their gang familes, and crack, alcohol, or work addicted parents?

Private charity. Vouchers.

[Tailgunner Joe]

The source for the claim that adult bookstores outnumber McDonald's restaurants in the United States by a margin of at least three to one is: "Effect of Pornography on Women and Children," U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee, Subcommittee on Juvenile Justice, 98th Congress, 2nd Session, 1984, 227.

Take it up with them.

[swampfox98]

Every time an anti-porn thread is posted here, it never fails to bring out the apologists for perversion. They hate anyone who would dare say anything against a business which debases women and destroys children. The most sick of the sick, when they become bored with these perversions, turn to little animals, hurting and killing them to satisfy their lusts. They are a sickening bunch, for sure. And every perversion they commit they have first seen it done in magazines or videos.That's why they don't want it stopped.

[Tailgunner Joe]

It was a joke, but I have no reason to believe that the threats I was responding to were jokes.