Posted on 07/14/2004 7:46:19 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
And since we don't, you cannot claim that porn has slowed its decline.
Yep and there are some people like John Ashcroft? who think bare breasts on artwork is porn. That's not where I am coming from. I used to have a little Venus of Willendorf pendant.
Proof positive liberals don't think... they feel.
Laws against obscenity are being enforced. However, generally speaking, pornography is not obscene. Simply stated, considering how many Americans buy pornography, it would seem that porn is accepted by society.
Since when is anything a criminal defense lawyer says beyond reproach? You have to be kidding me.
No offense, cherry, but if your argument rests on trusting Jeffrey Dahmer, or Ted Bundy, it's a pretty weak one.
And you cannot claim that there is no link.
The impetus is on you to prove the link, that porn causes rapes.
You have failed to do so, since the evidence shows that as porn became more mainstream, the reporting of rapes plummeted.
To insist that somehow rape would have plummeted more had porn not been around is a curious position. I can't wait to see how you prove it.
I thought it didn't matter what society thought.
Don't cry when conservatives ban porn and justify it as the people's will.
We can justify all sorts of things as "the people's will." That's not a republic, it's the mob rule that the Founding Fathers feared.
One of the things we can justify is abortion. The majority of people believe that first trimester abortions should be kept legal - are "the people" right about that?
True conservatives don't believe in banning things willy-nilly. It only serves to feed the beast of intrusive government.
Once more. It has nothing to do with my partaking or not partaking of this stuff. It has to do with my right to do so if I should so choose. It is a question of liberty.
I'm not the one who said porn should be legal because so many people buy it.
Cheating on your spouse is legal. A lot of people do it. Therefore, that indicates an acceptance by sociey.
Considering how people are buy their porn (in adult bookstores, through the mail, via the internet), I don't see the level of societal acceptance that you do. More like tolerance.
But if we've learned anything from the homosexual lobby, tolerance is but the first step towards acceptance, isn't it?
And I haven't. I have said there is no evidence of said link, but I haven't claimed it did not exist. However, the evidence (rapes and sexual assaults declining with porn usage increasing) is evidence, however indirect, that no such link exists.
Robespierre lives!
That's anopther one that will go over well at the NAACP convention and with his anarchist "fellow travellers."
1)That the average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest; AND
2)That the work depicts or describes in a patently offensive way, as measured by contemporary community standards, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable law; AND
T3) That a reasonable person would find that the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political and scientific value.
Though porn might meet 1 and 3, the people of this country, through their unwillingess to convict porn producers and through their massive consumption of porn have decided that the second requirement has not been met. Therefore, since porn is not obscene, you cannot do an end-run around the law by going after porn producers with anti-prostitution laws.
Yesterday your weak position on drug abuse came to light. Do you also share your anarchist friends' belief that prostitution and the sale of human organs should be legal as well?
Share with us!
If 12 of one's fellow citizens refuse to deliver a conviction, what do you propose to do about it?
The hell we can't.
I subscribe to Fine Cooking magazine. Who knew I was into food porn? I best burn my cookbooks.
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