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Gay Marriage Ban Divides Senate GOP
AP via Yahoo ^ | 13 July 2004 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 07/13/2004 10:08:31 PM PDT by hattend

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1 posted on 07/13/2004 10:08:31 PM PDT by hattend
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Just remember that Bill Frist is not our friend, as most of the GOP is not. He's already trying to force people to buy insurance, force!


2 posted on 07/13/2004 10:12:09 PM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com)
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To: hattend

I can't stand the liberal lapdog media.


3 posted on 07/13/2004 10:15:38 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: GeronL

Force people to buy insurance? How?


4 posted on 07/13/2004 10:16:29 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: hattend

I expected they would run for the tall grass. Principled people in Washington are few and between.


5 posted on 07/13/2004 10:16:38 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past
By federal decree

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1170882/posts

6 posted on 07/13/2004 10:19:03 PM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com)
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It's not Frists's fault. In part it is the consequence of the 17th amendment. The state legislatures are no longer represented in Washington DC. State governments are just one of many interest groups that congressmen and senators rely on for support in their election campaigns. The states legislatures not being represented in Washington DC must now take the inititive and pass resolutions calling for a constitutional convention.


7 posted on 07/13/2004 10:20:37 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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I am interested in the House's attempts to use what is, I think, Article 3 Section 2 of the Constitution to try and remove marriage concerns from the federal courts' jurisdiction.

I wonder though, if something like this were to pass, would federal courts ultimately have the power to decide if the Congress has the power to strip them of jurisdiction over marriage. I can't see this erroneusly labeled 'conservative' Supreme Court going along with that, so bizarrely the Courts may tell the Congress that they don't have the autority to remove things from their purview.

This can't be what the Founders had in mind; that the Sup Court could have so much power over this country.


8 posted on 07/13/2004 10:20:42 PM PDT by Aetius
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In a strongly worded speech, Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said some criticism runs along these lines: "Marriage is hate. Marriage is a stain. Marriage is an evil thing. That's what we hear. People who stand for traditional marriage are haters, they're bashers, they're mean-spirited, they're intolerant. ... Well, we're not," he added.

It's a typical socialist, democrat tactic, Sen Santorum.

9 posted on 07/13/2004 10:21:21 PM PDT by hattend
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We need to form a 527 and go after every politician who voted no on saving children from the stigma of growing up without a Real Dad or Mom.


10 posted on 07/13/2004 10:23:18 PM PDT by John Lenin
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Well I don't like that either. But I'll take his support on the marriage amendment.


11 posted on 07/13/2004 10:24:28 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: Paleo Conservative; Aetius
A Constitutional Convention would be a disaster run by the leftist. The result would be horrible and would never be ratified, a waste of time.

We need to elect libertarian-leaning (not too much) CONSERVATIVES. Not moderates.

and it is Frists fault. HE proposed it, nobody made him.

12 posted on 07/13/2004 10:24:34 PM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com)
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To: Aetius
This can't be what the Founders had in mind; that the Sup Court could have so much power over this country.

It's not. I strongly recomend David Barton's Original Intent for a complete exposition on the subject.

13 posted on 07/13/2004 10:40:21 PM PDT by WillRain
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Santorum is a conservative. He was mocking the left.


14 posted on 07/13/2004 10:51:33 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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Or describing them to a "T"


15 posted on 07/13/2004 10:53:33 PM PDT by hattend
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Queers have no business raising children. It's child abuse, pure and simple.

What they do in their own bedrooms, well I don't care because I don't want to spend my tax money to warehouse them in state or federal prison cells.


16 posted on 07/13/2004 11:30:00 PM PDT by hang 'em (THIS JUST IN: Kerry/Edwards get the long awaited, crucial NAMBLA endorsement!)
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To: GeronL
A Constitutional Convention would be a disaster run by the leftist.

I agree. Can you imagine what a disaster that would be? We would end up with a Soviet-style constitution that grants as "rights" all sorts of welfare programs and that would deny the freedom of speech, religion, RKBA, property rights, etc. The hard left would take over any Constitutional Convention because they have convictions, the mainstream left would go along to force in their pet issues, and half of the Republicans would meekly give up, I'm afraid.

17 posted on 07/13/2004 11:38:04 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (Lurking since 1997!)
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yup. The GOP is just a sad waste of oxygen at this point.


18 posted on 07/13/2004 11:40:42 PM PDT by GeronL (wketchup.com)
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To: hattend

Time to check who you want to have in the congress....


19 posted on 07/13/2004 11:42:09 PM PDT by jnarcus
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To: GeronL; John Lenin; Barnacle; little jeremiah; *Homosexual Agenda; MeekOneGOP; Smartass
America to the United States Senate: Who will stand up for the family - anyone?

Ping

20 posted on 07/14/2004 12:14:24 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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