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Supreme Court Sides With Pornographers Again
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| July 14, 2004
| Phyllis Schlafly
Posted on 07/13/2004 10:11:42 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Porn is not speach. It is a part of commerce. It is a product. It should be treated as such. Until that happens nothing will be done.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:00:03 AM PDT
by
raybbr
(My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
To: Tailgunner Joe
You can call porn illegal, a crime, or prostitution all you want. But saying it over and over again will not make it true. Pornography is a LEGAL business. Period.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:00:14 AM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
To: Phantom Lord
What I still find laugable about prostitution laws, is that to the best of my knoweldge. Sex is one of the few things you can give away, but cannot sell.
A college girl can have a legal gang-bang tonight with no criminal repurcusions, but if she charges $20 for a BJ, she's a felon. Makes no earthly sense at all. It just defies logic.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:00:50 AM PDT
by
Melas
To: Tailgunner Joe
Also, porn has been around since the beginning of man.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:01:24 AM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
To: Tailgunner Joe
You missed the point. Prostitution isn't universally illegal.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:01:51 AM PDT
by
Melas
To: raybbr
46
posted on
07/13/2004 11:01:53 AM PDT
by
raybbr
(My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
To: Melas
However, the net is the WORLD at your fingertips. We've yet to come up with a way to control the net like the cash register at the bookstore.
Amazon.com's web site appears to me to be exactly the equivalent of a "cash register at the bookstore". It isn't as if the technology isn't there, it's use was simply banned by the SC.
FWIW, you can purchase alchohol and cigarettes over the web. Those sites seem to have found a way to restrict their products to those of legal age. I guess the difference is in that no one's giving away alchohol and cigarettes to minors as an enticement.
To: Melas
Or she can trade it for goods, such as a dinner!
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:02:16 AM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
To: Phantom Lord
No it hasn't. It didn't start til the 60's . ;-)
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:02:20 AM PDT
by
Bella_Bru
(It's for the children = It takes a village)
To: Tailgunner Joe
Darn that ole Constitution.
To: Bella_Bru
Bella, I know your smarter than that.
51
posted on
07/13/2004 11:03:28 AM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
To: Melas
Porn doesn't get the exemption, the internet gets the exemption, don't confuse the 2. If you go to the bookstore and try to buy a Playboy, you have to prove you are 18.That is false. It is illegal to sell tobacco and alcohol products to minors on the internet.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:03:49 AM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: jwalsh07
That is false. It is illegal to sell tobacco and alcohol products to minors on the internet. Yes and no. A minor can purchase both on the internet. It only becomes illegal when the product is delivered if the delivery person does not verify age.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:04:43 AM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
To: Phantom Lord
Saying it won't make it true, but legislative action will. You had better hope Kerry gets elected so the Supreme Court stays leftist.
To: babyface00
That's because Amazon.com is a RETAILER with a website. Amazon.com is in the business of delivering REAL goods to your house.
www.xxxswedes.com may or may not be in the business of delivering real goods. It could just be in the business of charging $5 to view some pictures electronically, or maybe even for free. Either way, it's a Swedish website, and congress lacks the authority to do anything about it.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:05:21 AM PDT
by
Melas
To: Phantom Lord
Yes and no. A minor can purchase both on the internet. It only becomes illegal when the product is delivered if the delivery person does not verify age.Then there is not an undo burden requiring porn companies to assure that the delivery of porn is not to minors through the use of an ID card. You can't have it both ways.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:06:32 AM PDT
by
jwalsh07
To: jwalsh07
Stupid analogy. Pictures and text are not real goods. They can be delivered electronically via computer. Alcohol and tobacco are real goods that must be physically delivered. ID would be made upon delivery in these cases, not purchase.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:07:04 AM PDT
by
Melas
To: jwalsh07
That is false. It is illegal to sell tobacco and alcohol products to minors on the internet.Quite true. But minors can and do buy tobacco and alcohol routinely over the internet.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:07:04 AM PDT
by
Poohbah
(Technical difficulties have temporarily interrupted this tagline. Please stand by.)
To: Tailgunner Joe
And legislative action banning the production, distribution, and possession of Playboy would stand no chance of getting through congress. And if it did, the SC, regardless of who appointed the judges will shoot down any such law faster than a stripper can get naked.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:07:07 AM PDT
by
Phantom Lord
(Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
To: ServesURight
You are right about the market responding to provide proper controls.
But as you well know, this is not about protecting children.
That is but thinly veiled cover for their real intent...
moralistic nannystate enforcement of restrictions on freedom to "sin."
The "holier than thous" don't want OTHER, free men and women, to choose what they view over their own computer, or TV, or at their local bookstores either.
And they want to make america "morally righteous again" by doing it via the aegis of laws and interpretations thereof that violate the bill of rights.
government run amouk.
When religion joins with political power, you get the inquisition... something a group of conservatives here a week or so back... actually defended.
disgusting.
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posted on
07/13/2004 11:07:07 AM PDT
by
Robert_Paulson2
(the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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