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Experts Set a Lower Low for Cholesterol Levels
NY Times ^ | July 13, 2004 | GINA KOLATA

Posted on 07/12/2004 11:48:01 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: reformedliberal

What you said!!!

Reminds me of Brave New World and Soma - everyone got their weekly dose to keep them mellowed out. Also how babies in utero (or rather, scientific beakers or whatever) and during training were subjected to greater and lesser amounts of stuff like oxygen to promote various characteristics.

I gotta re-read "Brave New World". Huxley, although repellent in many ways, was also prescient. Actually he wasn't that bad a dude.


21 posted on 07/13/2004 7:29:54 AM PDT by little jeremiah ("You're possibly the most ignorant, belligerent, and loathesome poster on FR currently." - tdadams)
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To: neverdem

My total cholesterol was over 400 in June.
I've been using Zocor 10 mg. for about a month.


22 posted on 07/13/2004 7:32:43 AM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: reformedliberal

If I'm not mistaken, statins are already OTC in England.


23 posted on 07/13/2004 7:51:04 AM PDT by Born Conservative ("Nothing wrong with shooting as long as the right people get shot" - Dirty Harry)
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To: reformedliberal

Don't be surprised by a sharp increase in liver disease within five years.


24 posted on 07/13/2004 8:08:33 AM PDT by Old Professer (Interests in common are commonly abused.)
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To: Texan5

Anecdotal evidence is not science. Fact is, statins are pretty much a wonder drug and there's even better ones on the horizon.


25 posted on 07/13/2004 8:11:50 AM PDT by Modernman ("I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members" -Groucho Marx)
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To: Old Professer

Kidney stones; renal disease; myopathies, including cardiac.

And I am not professional med staff. This is just what the averagely educated person could be aware of. Probably a lot more than all this. What about interactions between the various BP meds/sterols/statins?


26 posted on 07/13/2004 8:15:10 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Proud Bush-Cheney04 volunteer)
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To: evets
My total cholesterol was over 400 in June. I've been using Zocor 10 mg. for about a month.

Go back to your doc for a follow up visit, repeat blood test assuming liver enzymes were previously checked, and tell your doc if you have any complaints. Although rare, as previously mentioned, liver and muscle problems are the most common.

27 posted on 07/13/2004 8:23:35 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Puddleglum
Man, since when did the quest for a long miserable life become a medical ideal?

How about when secular humanism was embraced by the manipulators of the culture?

28 posted on 07/13/2004 8:32:09 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: evets
Holy $^%$.  

And here I thought I had problems with the discovery a few weeks ago that my cholesterol was 308.

Did you have other problems that prompted you to see the doctor and discover your high cholesterol?  I went and saw my doctor because muscles throughout my body were starting to twitch uncontrollably.  It was keeping me up all night and initially my doctor thought it was Benign Fasculation Syndrome but once we discovered my out-of-control cholesterol and changed my diet the fasculations went away almost immediately.

29 posted on 07/13/2004 8:32:58 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: neverdem

New drugs, huh?

Pharmaceutical comapnies and their investors wouldn't have anything to do with this, would they? Nah, didn't think so. </sarcasm


30 posted on 07/13/2004 8:35:30 AM PDT by Desdemona (Out of town July 15-August 3. Away from computers.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Wow. 308 is high too. They tested me again,
cause they couldn't believe I was over 400.
I am skinny, with a lean diet.
I have genetically high cholesterol.
Hopefully medicine will help.
I checked it after donating blood.
I'm glad thet you've recovered from the 'fasculations'!
Try some diet and excercise to lower cholesterol.
(Niacin works too!)


31 posted on 07/13/2004 8:39:15 AM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: evets
My total cholesterol was over 400 in June. I've been using Zocor 10 mg. for about a month.

I was at that point 14 years ago! 10mg is the smallest dose and (if you tolerate it) your dosage will be increased substantially (in incremental amounts) before your LDL is under control.

I've been on Zocor for 14 years now (currently at 60mg/day) and my LDL bounces around 80 (would be much better if I paid much attention to my diet, but I don't)... Regular blood tests will track your progress!

The HDL/LDL ratio is important also:

For men, a ratio of 3.6 is the "average risk" level currently. A ratio of 1.0 is "1/2 average risk". Those are your goals...

32 posted on 07/13/2004 8:51:18 AM PDT by ExSES
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To: Petronski

Bingo, we have a winner.


33 posted on 07/13/2004 8:51:20 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: ExSES

Thanks for the info. I'll check my stats soon.

I've heard that oatmeal helps control cholesterol.

I wonder, does that include oatmeal stout? (and beer?) ha ha


34 posted on 07/13/2004 12:37:40 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: Gorzaloon
The only "fact" in all this is the very high price of a very simple compound that a freshman Chem major could make in a dorm room.
Nah, I'd have to go with sophmore chem major there. Believe me, I know! :-)
35 posted on 07/13/2004 1:55:11 PM PDT by Beaker
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To: evets
Thanks for the info. I'll check my stats soon. I've heard that oatmeal helps control cholesterol. I wonder, does that include oatmeal stout? (and beer?) ha ha

Oatmeal... perhaps, beer, no way (I said I do not observe a "healthy diet regimen"...).

Good luck!

36 posted on 07/13/2004 6:11:05 PM PDT by ExSES
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To: neverdem

For a good overview of cholesterol as a health issue, as well as treatments, go to http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-032.shtml


37 posted on 10/07/2004 12:53:18 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: reformedliberal

Statin users need Coenzyme Q10 supplementation. Merck knows this as they patented a combo product yet never moved forward with it.


38 posted on 07/31/2005 10:41:28 AM PDT by Hubie59
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