Posted on 07/12/2004 6:12:22 PM PDT by wagglebee
They hate Bush.
Like I said, I have no problem with these guys and I don't think any of them should now be bumped aside. All I'm saying is that some time should be made for a prominent social conservative, or a social conservative who could be prominent 4 years from now. I know, that most people will not remember who spoke 4 yrs from now, but I'd sure like to get an early look at what some of the possible nominees of the future have to offer in terms of charisma and speaking skills -- like Sen George Allen and Gov Bill Owens to name just two.
Santorum? Yes, he's great.
Then they will follow with that nice little screed by Kerry's campaign ops/reporter on homosexual sex. Again. We all know who he is. The moderates would be reinforced that we are Nazis.
What are you not getting? They hate us. They really do.
That isn't all we are. We are not a one-trick pony. Read my post above regarding black churches and words vs. deeds. We don't pander. We don't need to.
If a more mainstream person gets to talk on a national stage, so what?
I'm not saying I would be happy about a Guiliani nomination, but I can see it happening.
Screaming with flying spit on national television won't win us any supporters.
Daschle and his warmth to Michael Moore is finding that out the hard way.
George Bush
Dick Cheny
Laura Bush
Lynne Cheney
Exactly. We MUST stay focused on the big picture. Too many are so worried about their own pet issues that they are being distracted. I am as socially conservative as they come but if the choice was to listen to Arnold or Gary Bauer, I would rather watch Arnold because he is a motivator and makes you want to do your best and makes you see the future. Gary Bauer and others like him do the opposite. That is why Rove is using his capital wisely.
Is there supposed to be a point in that? They hate us - so you propose that we pander to them in a futile attempt at making them like us. That's a bizarre line of reasoning.
That isn't all we are. We are not a one-trick pony. Read my post above regarding black churches and words vs. deeds. We don't pander. We don't need to. If a more mainstream person gets to talk on a national stage, so what?
I've got no problem with it. Just offer conservatives as well as opposed to nothing but the most liberal Republicans. I'm the one suggesting we need to show the full breadth of the GOP; you're proposing we offer up only a narrow view unrepresentative of mainstream Republicans.
I agree 100 percent.
IMO When Bush wins, Zell Miller will be rewarded with a cabinet post.
Aren't you silly; to some they are ALL immigration threads!
Is that what conservatives do?
People act like those people are the ONLY people speaking; this thing is at least four days long; there will be a LOT of people speaking!
No, I don't; we don't all have tunnel vision.
The tent has gotten bigger, or haven't you noticed?
If only the perfect one's would see that. No they will whine and complain, kind of like the liberals do that they are not being treated fair.
Grow up people we have a lot at stake in this election. If we pout and stomp our feet and lose this election you will be the loudest one's complaining.
Exactly. The unfortunate truth is that when Joe Voter hears "socially conservative Republican", he thinks "Pat Buchanan".
"I'm not saying I would be happy about a Guiliani nomination, but I can see it happening"
I just can't see him winning primaries in any Southern, Sun-Belt, or Rocky Mtn West state if there is an opponent is the slightest bit viable.
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