Isakson: no runoff with [Herman] Cain next Tuesday

AccessNorthGa.com ^ | July 12, 2004 | Jerry Gunn

[AuH2ORepublican]

Isakson's only hope is that he can keep on lying about his abortion record (he has voted in favor of abortions in military hospitals every time the issue has come up, and comes up just about every year) until next Tuesday and get 50% of the vote (which would be a miracle, since he must not be polling anywhere close to that or else he would not have stopped releasing his internal polls). When Isakson faces Herman Cain in the run-off, it will be very difficult for him to win one-on-one, since Herman Cain will be the one true conservative left and Georgia Republican run-offs are dominated by conservatives, not the country club Republicans that form most of Isakson's support.

EVERY CONSERVATIVE NEEDS TO GO OUT AND VOTE! Early voting begins today, Tuesday July 13, and Primary Day is next Tuesday, July 20. In order to defeat the pro-abortion Johnny Isakson, we need every Georgia pro-life conservative to vote for either Mac Collins (who is a fine conservative Congressman and would make a good Senator) or, better yet, for black businessman Herman Cain (who is an outstanding conservative, a proponent of eliminating the income tax and will make a GREAT Senator). Both Mac Collins supporters and Herman Cain supporters have the same goal on Primary Day---making sure that the pro-abortion Isakson does not get to 50%, since in a run-off the conservative majority in the Georgia Republican electorate will be able to speak with one voice and send a pro-life conservative to the Senate.

[AmishDude]

I'm sure Isakson could function as a respectable conservative Republican in the Senate. The abortion thing is probably not a big issue with respect to bills that will come up. It seems he'll vote with the GOP on hot button issues like partial birth and parental notification. His opinion on stem cell research would be more telling than anything else. I would worry, though, that squishy abortion views would lead to squishy support for conservative judges and justices.

He's done what needs to be done in a healthy party -- worked his way up, worked with the party establishment, done the little thankless jobs that help support candidates low on the ticket.

As a non-Georgian, I'd much rather see Herman Cain win. He's the future of the party -- energetic, exciting and visionary. I'd much rather see him on the Sunday morning shows.

[AuH2ORepublican]

What happened to Ray Davis, the conservative black minister who was originally running for the Republicans? I thought he would have a chance at an upset irrespective of whether the Democrat nominee ended up being (after a bloody primary, I hope) black racist traitor Cynthia McKinney or white lesbian ultraliberal Cathy Woolard.

[AuH2ORepublican]

And not only that, Isakson has voted in favor of abortions in military hospitals every time the issue has come up (and it comes up just about every year, I believe in the defense appropriations). If Johnny Isakson is so "personally opposed" to abortion (which is also John Kerry's position, I guess), why does he feel the need to consistently vote in favor of using our taxpayer dollars to fund abortions (even abortions in foreign countries!), and to vote in favor of abortion in areas in which the courts can't tell Congress what to do (such as in military hospitals, which are run with federal taxpayer dollars)? Johnny Isakson is pro-abortion, pure and simple, and every time he and his lackeys open their mouths to say that he's pro-life they are knowingly LYING through their teeth.

And as for your claim that metro Atlanta is filling up with economic conservatives from up North, you should know that most of the metro Atlanta growth has been in exurban areas (such as Cherokee, Forsyth and Hall Counties) that are being filled with young families that are culturally as well as economically conservative. And even if you are correct and these new voters care only about economic issues, you will see most of them voting for Herman Cain, the only Republican in the Senate primary who is in favor of eliminating the federal income tax and replacing it with the FairTax (a national sales tax).

Isakson is a go-along, get-along kind of country-club (not country, mind you) Republican, a career politician who habitually lies to try to get what he wants. And boy does he want this Senate seat! After losing miserably as a pro-abortion Republican (he went as far as promising to veto any legislation that restricted access to abortion!) in the 1990 governor's race, Isakson sought Sam Nunn's Senate seat and made his pro-abortion stance the centerpiece to his campaign (that being pro-abortion would make you more acceptable to the conservative Democrats that decide elections in Georgia is something that only an idiot would believe, and apparently Isakson was just that sort of idiot), but Isakson got beat by Guy Millner in the GOP primary. Now, of course, he's running against two pro-life conservative Republicans and he's taken to lying about his position and his record on abortion, but all the money in the world won't be able to buy him credibility on the issue. Isakson will not get to 50%+1 on primary day, and he will lose to Herman Cain in the run-off.

[AuH2ORepublican]

"60 votes are needed to end a filibuster, not 67"

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True, but, in all fairness, perhaps he meant that one needs 67 votes to ratify a treaty, approve a constitutional amendment or impeach a perjuring, justice-obstructing president.

[AuH2ORepublican]

I meant "convict in an impeachment trial," of course.

[pdebuss]

I'd have to disagree that ANY Republican can win in the general election. Isakson will desperately need votes from the conservative wing to win, and he won't get them because of his history on abortion. Just as before, he will lose the statewide race, which may be a good thing, since we will be rid of him for forever.

[GeorgiaDawg]

Can someone help me...is Cain a viable candidate? Isakson has run for Senate, Governor, etc and seems to be a perennial candidate for open office. What's the biggest difference between the two on the issues? Pro life?

[pdebuss]

Dear Blessed,

As we've discussed before, abortion is not merely a moral issue. As I demonstrated in an earlier thread, abortion has had and will continue to have destructive economic ramifications for our nation - an observation which YOU admitted to be a fact.

I must also add that your response to that observation was extremely weak, as you could only ask what legislation has been proposed or will be proposed that would alter that fact - the implication being that Mr. Isakson's pro-abortion stance doesn't matter since he hasn't had a chance to vote for any anti-abortion legislation (your implication, not mine).

You also did not deny that Mr. Isakson is pro-abortion. But now you do and accuse those of us who state the truth of lying. Shame on you for twisting the facts!

Let's get it straight one more time:
1. Abortion is ravagin our country economically as we have eliminated 43 million innocent children, which roughly equates to 22 million workers.
2. Mr. Isakson has a history of pro-abortion stances and votes.

Given those facts, why should any moral or economic conservative cast a vote for Mr. Isakson?

Furthermore, since you claim to be a Christian (or at least spout Bible verses to give the impression), why are you okay with a candidate who supports killing babies?

I know one thing, when I cast my vote for Cain, my conscience will not bother me. However, if you vote for Isakson, your conscience ought to bother you.

[Mamzelle]

Was it in GA that Bush had a snub after his "willing (illegal) workers for willing (illegal) employers" this winter? I seem to remember that a fundraising stop has some embarrassments and unsold tickets--to protest this position .

[pdebuss]

GeorgiaDawg,

It depends on what you mean by viable, but I'd have to answer yes from my point of view. Mr. Cain is more like Reagan, whereas Isakson and Collins seem to lack any leadership ability, IMHO.

Abortion is a major difference between Cain and Isakson, Cain being pro-life. Isakson, as you may know, is a career politician with a record of "accomplishments" on minor, low visibility issues with one exception. Isakson is touting his involvement with the horrendous no-child-left-behind legislation, which has only strangled the public schools with unfunded requirements and more paperwork for teachers - a dubious achievement, at best. Historically, Isakson has failed to lead on big issues like tax reform, Social Security reform, abortion, etc.

Cain has a history of success at all levels of responsibility, up to the top of the corporate ladder. He pledges to address the big issues facing all Americans. Check out his website: http://www.cainforussenate.org

[hilaryrhymeswithrich]

If that happened here, I missed it in the news.

[AuH2ORepublican]

"I'd have to disagree that ANY Republican can win in the general election. Isakson will desperately need votes from the conservative wing to win, and he won't get them because of his history on abortion."

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As someone who was arguing throughout the Winter that Isakson would be vulnerable to a moderate-to-conservative Democrat in the general election, I would agree with you that if the Democrats were running a first-tier candidate (heck, even a second-tier candidate), Isakson would probably do very poorly in South Georgia (where statewide elections in GA are decided---see the gubernatorial election maps for 1998 and 2002 to see how Perdue won). However, with the sorry bunch of characters running for the Democrat nomination, I think even a pro-abortion Atlantan like Isakson would end up winning the general election. It's not like DeKalb County Congreewoman Denise Majette will be cleaning up among rural South Georgians. And it's not like Isakson is an Arlen Specter-style RINO, so conservatives who come out to vote for Bush in the general will hold their noses and vote for Isakson.

But yes, if Isakson wins the nomination it will not be as comfortable a victory for the GOP as if Herman Cain wins.

P.S. I just received an e-mail from my aunt, who lives in Floyd County (NW GA), and she just got back from early voting. It took her an hour to cast her ballot for Herman Cain, since there was only one voting machine in the county courthouse. I think that larger-than-anticipated crowds in places like Floyd County may bode well for Cain's candidacy.

GO, CAIN, GO!