Russia’s New—and Frightening—“Ism” - Eurasianism

Hoover Digest ^ | 2001 | John B. Dunlop

[Brilliant]

I hate to disagree, but what we need to do is forge a partnership with Russia. Give them a reason to ally themselves with us instead of the Franco-German European empire. The Russians are not going to attack the US. We're past that.

[gipper81]

Aleksandr Dugin Eurasia party founder and chief ideologue of the Russian geopolitical school

[headsonpikes]

Halford Mackinder placemarker.

'Who controls the Heartland controls the World'.

[Fred22]

I would have to agree with Brilliant.

Russia would be an Excellent counter weight against China and the EU and unlike the EU they are moving toward capitalism. The people who wrote this are probable on the fringe kinda like the neo nazis, most countries have them.

[StoneColdGOP]

Interesting.

[Fred22]

Don't mean to bother you but your thoughts on this.

[Fred22]

Don't mean to bother you but your thoughts on this?

[datura]

Not so fast. They still are arming China to the teeth. The likelihood of a Sino-Russian military axis is very good. Here's a recent example that I haven't seen posted in here yet:

NORTHEAST ASIA REPORT

SPECIAL FROM EAST-ASIA-INTEL.COM

China, Russia change sides — now back N. Korea in nuke talks

Russia criticized the U.S. position at the six-party talks in Beijing for continuing to demand the complete dismantlement of all of North Korea's nuclear facilities.

Pyongyang's Deputy Foreign Minister Kim Gye Gwan (left) talks with Russian Ambassador at Large Alexander Alexeyev (right) before a banquet in Beijing during the recent talks on the N. Korean nuclear crisis.

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Ambassador at Large Alexander Alexeyev, head of the Russian delegation to the third round of six-nation talks on North Korea, told reporters in Beijing: "No one has the right to ban peaceful nuclear programs. This goes against international law." He did note that some North Korean nuclear facilities must be controlled.

U.S. officials have said Russia has shifted sides in the six-party talks and is privately supporting North Korea against the United States. China, too, is said to be favoring the North Koreans. Japan is solidly backing the U.S. stance while South Korea is said to be neutral.

Meanwhile China is increasing its already strong military ties with Russia. Military relations were discussed during a visit to Beijing by Col. Gen. Yuri Baluyevsky, who took part in a round of Russian-Chinese talks on "strategic stability."

The discussions focused on military and military-technology cooperation, arms proliferation and anti-terrorism efforts.

The Russian visit will be followed by a visit to Moscow by Gen. Guo Boxiong, vice chairman of the Chinese Central Military Commission early this month.

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[vrwc1]

Moscow-Tokyo

In Russia’s relations with Japan, he emphasizes that the principle of a common enemy “will prove decisive.”

Can someone please explain how the U.S. is Japan's "enemy"?

Moscow-Tehran

This alliance is based on the traditional character of Russian and Islamic civilizations.

Huh? The radical Islamics want to kill or convert everyone who's not Islamic...how is this supposed to make them buddies with Moscow?

Sorry, this article just doesn't make much sense...

[Tailgunner Joe]

This was written by a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute.

Personally I think that the idea that China would attack Russia is a fantastic one. It is an idea promoted here on FR by those who want China to scare us into Russia's arms.

The rest of the analysis is good but they need to add a section on the Moscow-Beijing Axis.

[Tailgunner Joe]

North Korea is a Russian satellite.

Russia says Moscow and Beijing could provide North Korea with security guarantees - 08-13-03

[Carry_Okie]

I never cease to be amazed at the stupidity of people who think that subjugating others is the key to prosperity.

[Tailgunner Joe]

I notice you did not cast doubt on the possibility of the Moscow-Berlin Axis.

I agree that a Russo-Japanese alliance seems unlikely, but to Russia it makes sense. Russians see Japan and Germany both as American conquests. A return of the Kurils could woo Japan into Russia's embrace and offer them the kind of independence from the U.S. that the Germans are achieving now.

As far as Iran goes, they have been supported by Russia for decades.

Iran sees Russia as a guarantor of their security.

Against U.S. wishes, Russia to send nuclear fuel to reactor in Iran - 2/14/04

[datura]

Actually, the relations between China and Russia could go either way. If China is going to continue its' expansion at the current level, which it must - or face civil unrest - then they need the raw materials that is available just north of their border with Russia. Russia has very few military personnel east of the Urals, and the bulk of Siberia is very sparsely populated. Many of the people living there are of Chinese origin, plus North Korean gulag workers.

It would be far cheaper for China to merely push north now, rather than purchase these materials on the open market. They doubt that we would come to Russia's aid. Watch for China's decision on whether to align with Russia or take Siberia to happen as soon as the bulk of currently ordered military hardware is delivered from Russia. If China feels at that point that they can make all of the current generation military hardware on their own without Russia, then Siberia will be the PLAs destination instead of Taiwan.

[Tailgunner Joe]

The radical Islamics want to kill or convert everyone who's not Islamic

They also want to kill other kinds of Islamic people who are not Islamic enough, or Islamic the wrong way. Iran is Shiite and would make a good ally against Russia's Sunni enemies.

[Tailgunner Joe]

Don't forget that Russia has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.

I believe that the Chi-com's are schoolyard bullies who will pick on their weaker neighbors.

[vrwc1]

A return of the Kurils could woo Japan into Russia's embrace and offer them the kind of independence from the U.S. that the Germans are achieving now.

Independence from the U.S. at the expense of dependence on Russia? That doesn't make sense - Kurils or not.

As far as Iran goes, they have been supported by Russia for decades.

Russia uses Iran as a source of cash - that's what that relationship is about. As for Iran seeing Russia as a guarantor of their security - bah. Iran funds Islamic insurgents battling Russia in Chechnya while they buy nuclear capabilities. They're both just using each other, but there is no strategic relationship.

[datura]

Japan won't be falling for that Russian bag of trinkets and baubles. As for the "independence" that Germany is enjoying (?) right now, I think that Japan has had enough of that during their current recession. Germany, while becoming increasingly self-important to nearly delusional levels, is feeling an added economic pinch without the US military spending its' paychecks there.

France and Germany both are to the point that they beleive their own lies. The only place where their worldviews are remotely listened to is inside the UN. They jointly define "irrelevant".

[Tailgunner Joe]

Independence from the U.S. at the expense of dependence on Russia?

Does this make sense to Germany? It does to the 'cowboy'-hating socialists who run that country.

Koizumi's hold on power is tenuous. If there is a shift to the left in Japan, they are going to start hating America more than they fear Russia.

Of course this would be stupid for them to do, but it's not out of the question.