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Some Key Conservatives Uneasy About Bush
The Herald (Miami) ^ | Jul. 11, 2004 | SCOTT LINDLAW

Posted on 07/11/2004 10:48:58 AM PDT by Military Chick

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To: Joe Hadenuf

Joe, actually my bottom line is right.

Saddam had bunkers and in any case we didnt know if and *where* to bomb. Those two terror camps I mentioned? One was salman pak. The other one - WE DISCOVERED ONLY AFTER WE INVADED IRAQ. It's trivial. We bomb one camp, they move it somewhere else and camaflauge it.

If bombing terror camps was enough to stop terrorism, we never would have had 9/11 (since we bombed bin laden in 1998 dontcha know).


221 posted on 07/11/2004 5:08:46 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: Grey Ghost II
Well you are assuming issues really matter. Silly me, I thought it was all about getting votes and power, not actually standing up for one's principles.

Not following you. The post was in response to a comment about republicans controling the senate. If your can't get cooperation from one of your own senators (regardless of his reasons for voting the way he does or making the alliances he does) isn't control. That's what my counterpoint was intended to convey.

222 posted on 07/11/2004 5:15:01 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: All

I suppose it took posts to get me off my behind and see what can be done to access my original login. Back in 1998 to be exact. I have only used to other handles, and would use second but for security reasons I decided on a catchy handle.

I think that folks should show a little more respect to a persons post then their time in FR. I appreciate my husband standing up for me but in the end some minds are made up and will never see anything else. No matter how truthful it is.

So I am a former AF meteorologist, daughter of a West Pointer and the proud wife of an Army Artillery Officer, who has fought for our freedoms. 'nuf said


223 posted on 07/11/2004 5:17:56 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I previously posted under Military Chick)
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To: Dane

But you haven't stated it on your own page, have you?

I always thought you were a resident of Denmark.


224 posted on 07/11/2004 5:20:20 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Two Johns, both full of it and over flowing-the democrats have created fly heaven.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Airpower could have taken out *anything* deemed militarily offensive on the ground routinely, on short notice. *Including* his capacity to produce oil for offensive purposes. Piece of cake. We've done it in other wars and it worked very well.

Then how do you explain the missiles that hit Kuwait? Or the ones we found after the invasion? Air Power is not the be-all end-all. Even the USAF is begining to realize that since Operation Allied Force (Balkans) and the hunt for UBL. You have to identify targets before you can bomb them. That's pretty tough to do in many circumstances for instance when you're after terrorists intermingled with the populace.

225 posted on 07/11/2004 5:21:13 PM PDT by No Longer Free State
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Which country's chickin Military are you a veteran of anyway?

We currently reside near Ft. Leavenworth, KS where my husband is stationed. Why do you ask?

226 posted on 07/11/2004 5:21:52 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I previously posted under Military Chick)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Which country's chickin Military are you a veteran of anyway?

Oops was thinking something else as I typed. Sorry, I am a former AF metrologist.

227 posted on 07/11/2004 5:24:23 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I previously posted under Military Chick)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

"Using your logic, I guess we should have fought a more politically correct, humane war with Japan and Germany."

Um, we ended up with boots on the ground in both countries at the end of WWII. Nobody on FR is against air power when useful; we all think the 1991 (Iraq), 2001 (Afghanistan) and 2003 (Iraq) air campaigns were awesome, and I'm on your side in appreciating the utility of bombing fallujah 'safe houses' (not safe now, he he he).

But we have yet to win a single war with air power alone.
And the Clinton "fire a missile and forget" policy left us with major negatives consequences.

Afghanistan 2001 was perhaps the ideal example of how future wars could be won: Major air component; use of special forces and intel on the ground; allies, and a 'few good men' to spearhead victory. But in the end, we dont take and hold air, we take and hold GROUND, so we need Boots on the Ground to do it.


228 posted on 07/11/2004 5:28:17 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: stylin19a

He said that the Iraq war is "a war which will undoubtedly widen, perhaps even into world war,"

...since he has been PROVEN WRONG BY EVENTS will he come back to the fold?

hmmmm.

Good find!


229 posted on 07/11/2004 5:29:43 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
But you haven't stated it on your own page, have you?

I always thought you were a resident of Denmark

Hey, I don't want to use up FR bandwidth with what I think is superflorous stuff, tar and feather me.

230 posted on 07/11/2004 5:30:31 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Military Chick

Sounds like a bunch of RINO RATS to me.


231 posted on 07/11/2004 5:30:33 PM PDT by johnfl61
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To: No Longer Free State
Then how do you explain the missiles that hit Kuwait? Or the ones we found after the invasion?

Kuwait? Big deal. The ones after the invasion? Pfsst. Come on. Even if you empty out a bag of sand, there will still be some grains left in the bottom.

232 posted on 07/11/2004 5:45:09 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: johnfl61

Speaking of RINOs it seems that if given the choice of a democrat or a RINO they will vote for the RINO.

I am not sure how much traction these folks will get, if the previous article/NY advertisement where top military leaders (retired) and former ambassadors came out against Bush and the war. It stopped the day it was published. I am betting in the end this will be old news.


233 posted on 07/11/2004 5:45:52 PM PDT by Former Military Chick (I previously posted under Military Chick)
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To: Mark in the Old South
I'm not gona beg you for nothing, SIT your Butt home if you like, see where it gets you in November - a Nightmare of Kerry and the French Connection.

You got a choice, Inaction with the Democrats or Action with George W BUSH.

Afganistan and Iraq are successes, inspite of what the media and Liberals try and paint it as.

234 posted on 07/11/2004 5:47:18 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (Liberals - ignorance in action)
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To: Dane

Hey, tar and feather yourself, I have more important things to do.


235 posted on 07/11/2004 5:54:52 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Two Johns, both full of it and over flowing-the democrats have created fly heaven.)
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To: Mark in the Old South
There's an old saying it applies to Aviation, in an Emergency "FLY the Airplane first", thats what GWB is doing.

Your shopping list of Important things, in a perfect world yeah we are concerned about it, but right now WE'RE busy with other stuff - like Keeping the Airplane from Crashing. Your list will take several more elections and Presidents to clean up.

1. Illegal immigration

2. The continuation of Abortion without end in site

3. A runaway court that he does nothing about

4. Foot dragging on gay marriage

5. The world court

236 posted on 07/11/2004 5:58:51 PM PDT by agincourt1415 (Liberals - ignorance in action)
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To: Military Chick

I am certainly voting for Bush/Cheney and all the other GOP candidates. I am also proud of all the military and former military men and women who have replied to Free Republic. Keep up the good work and make your country, family and President proud.


237 posted on 07/11/2004 6:03:35 PM PDT by johnfl61
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To: Former Military Chick

"Why do you ask?"

I guess I asked, because it seemed from your posts that you were more trusting of Bush detractors, than of the Commander-in-Chief himself. I for one just happen to believe that G.W. Bush is the real deal. Says what he means-means what he says. I just don't believe he would lie.

I do not believe that anyone else, vieing for Bush's job, has the guts to see this war on terrorism through to victory, and anything less than victory is absolute defeat.


238 posted on 07/11/2004 6:15:15 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Two Johns, both full of it and over flowing-the democrats have created fly heaven.)
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To: Deb

"Regardless of Spector's vote history his seat guarantees the GOP majority, which means Tom Daschle isn't in control of our government."

If our majority in the Senate depends on RINOs next year, they'll perform as awfully as they have this term.

Hopefully, that wont be the case, and we will have a few more conservative senators replacing the likes of Edwards, Hollings, whoever that Floriduh senator is, etc.


239 posted on 07/11/2004 6:15:20 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: Military Chick

It's time to give support to a third, right-of-center party. The Constitution Party, I suggest, may be the correct choice.

The objective? Elect congresspeople, but not jeopardize a Republican presidential win in 2008.


240 posted on 07/11/2004 6:26:38 PM PDT by Tax Government
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