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Whites flee Zimbabwe in droves
Independent Online

Posted on 07/11/2004 4:39:18 AM PDT by Ironfocus

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To: zimdog

Look, if you want to live in Mali where they speak French and 90% of the people are Muslim and another 9% have (ahem) indigenous beliefs, knock yourself out. I'll pass.


181 posted on 07/11/2004 9:17:26 PM PDT by Max Combined
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To: Ironfocus
"Good point. The Selous Scouts were awesome soldiers."

In fact, I think you missed his point; sometimes sarcasm should be pre-acknowledged.

However, I agree with your comment - "war criminals" has become just as misplaced a shroud as has "racist".

182 posted on 07/11/2004 9:18:23 PM PDT by norton
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To: zimdog
"fined, ticketed. you're splitting hairs."

No, you will not be fined or ticketed if you do not leave your car unlocked and you do not leave items in the car unattended.

"Due to the high incidence of such crimes, motorists in Montreal and some other jurisdictions can be fined for leaving their car doors unlocked or for leaving valuables in view."

What is so difficult to understand about that sentence?
183 posted on 07/11/2004 9:21:26 PM PDT by Max Combined
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To: Max Combined

"can be fined" = "will be fined unless the cop has something better to do"


184 posted on 07/11/2004 9:22:21 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Max Combined

"Look, if you want to live in Mali where they speak French and 90% of the people are Muslim and another 9% have (ahem) indigenous beliefs, knock yourself out. I'll pass."

Trust me, it's your loss.


185 posted on 07/11/2004 9:23:26 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog

"Trust me, it's your loss."

Says one guy living in the US to another.


186 posted on 07/11/2004 9:24:59 PM PDT by Max Combined
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To: cyborg
"Ghana, Zambia..."

I have never been to Ghana but my husband has, two years ago...

shakedown city, and there is a seething hatred for whites, hidden when it had to be, but very apparent otherwise...

of course, then there's the Aids crisis which is beginning to hit Ghana hard...

187 posted on 07/11/2004 9:42:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

Not so in the countryside but then again if one is going to travel there, you should know someone or a family. If I ever get to go, I'll be staying with my friend's family. Not going to worry about AIDS either so I don't plan on sleeping with anyone *lol*


188 posted on 07/11/2004 9:45:33 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: dvwjr
Your statement is just stupid. Many of the people there have tried to leave for years. They are unable to get their money and goods out. It's real hard to pick up and leave where your family has been for hundreds of years, with nothing.

On top of that where do you go? For years no country on earth would take you if you had a Zim or South African passport. Unless you could get an Irish or UK one you were stuck.

I worked for years helping a handful of people get a small amount out of both places, lived and worked there a couple of years and have a niece married to a South African who's family of doctors got out because they could get British passports.

However what I wanted to say was along the lines of - &%^ ^%# % ^&%$#* *&^$(*& a$$!!!

189 posted on 07/11/2004 10:02:39 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (Some parts of the world are filled with scum)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

Well, we'll just have to have a difference of opinion. The transition from minority white rule began in 1979, which is now 25 years ago. Some insightful European Jews were able to exit Europe in considerably less than a quarter century before WWII. Once the transition to African tribal rule was complete, why did any of the resident whites think that the Western-style 'rule of law', much less their property and politicalstanding would be maintained?

Africa has a poor history of the end of colonial rule. One man, one vote, one time.


dvwjr


190 posted on 07/11/2004 11:09:02 PM PDT by dvwjr
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To: dvwjr

Mugabe wasn't always this nutty. Things started out relatively mild and then just went down hill. Perhaps that is why many didn't leave. The folks that left were people who fought in the war and even then they went to South Africa. Besides even if it wasn't tribal rule, they wouldn't be able to do things 'business as usual'. You can't have rule of law and not allow the majority of citizens to vote and deprive them of the same rights richly enjoyed by the whites and coloured people. There's a lot that can be said, but it's all pointless. Mugabe is the next Stalin? and the Chinese will take over anyway.


191 posted on 07/11/2004 11:19:49 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Max Combined

I was one of the lucky ones, but it took me 10 years of planning, saving and studying to get out. Others are not as fortunate, even though they want out, it's a physical impossibility.


192 posted on 07/12/2004 4:30:12 AM PDT by Ironfocus (You can read this, thank a teacher, it's in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: norton

No, I did get the point he was trying to make. I just chose to ignore the implied "they brought it on themselves" message, as it is simply not true.


193 posted on 07/12/2004 4:55:18 AM PDT by Ironfocus (You can read this, thank a teacher, it's in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Max Combined

I'll be in Mali in a few weeks.


194 posted on 07/12/2004 5:50:08 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog

Have fun.


195 posted on 07/12/2004 5:53:00 AM PDT by Max Combined
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To: cibersnot

Botswana


196 posted on 07/12/2004 7:12:18 AM PDT by Killing Time
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To: Ironfocus

There's the problem; how, without interfering, can we bring that about?


197 posted on 07/12/2004 7:28:57 AM PDT by Old Professer (Interests in common are commonly abused.)
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To: zimdog
What would you show to support your claim that theft, war and torture were Africans' "highest aim in life"?

Do Darfu, Sudan (Muslim/Christian); Biafra, Nigeria (Hausa, et al/Ibo); Nyarubuye/Mugonero/etc., Rwanda (/Hutu/Tutsi) sound familiar?

Google on murder torture Africa

Replacing "Africa" with "United States" or "Europe" bring up a fair amount, but words like "cannibalism" and "hacking/necklacing/bestialities" aren't quite as prevalent (sarcasm off).

198 posted on 07/12/2004 9:17:13 AM PDT by Oatka
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To: Max Combined

I'm sure you're being sarcastic, but I'll pretend you're no and thank you.


199 posted on 07/12/2004 10:35:37 AM PDT by zimdog
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To: Oatka

Quick point: Darfur should be listed (Muslim/Muslim)

I'm not saying there aren't wars and genocides and torture in Africa, I'm asking you how you think that war, genocide and torture are Africans' "highest ideals".

How can you?


200 posted on 07/12/2004 10:38:29 AM PDT by zimdog
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