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Iranian Intel Officers Captured in Iraq
FOX News ^ | July 7, 2004 | Bret Baier

Posted on 07/07/2004 6:56:23 AM PDT by KriegerGeist

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To: RonF
I'd counsel against either course. Iraqis have no love for Iran. More incidents like this and you'll see the Iranian mullahs worried about sparking off a second Iraq/Iran war, with one side newly united under an actual reason to fight and the other side fractioned with dissent against a totalitarian government.

I agree with your assessment. You have far better insight into this that I do, with my "knee-jerk" draw and fire reaction.

I just hate these guys sending in the means to injure or kill our soldiers. I have no doubt now that Mookie al Sadr is an Iranian agent and has to take his marching orders from Iran... thus his calling for his mutts to continue the resistance to "the occupation" even though we are working hard and quickly to get the heck out of Dodge [that is un-occupy]. It's illogical and lacks any common sense, because if the "resistance" just quit resisting, we'd go away.

21 posted on 07/07/2004 7:16:34 AM PDT by KriegerGeist ("Only one life to live and soon it is past, and only what was done for Jesus Christ shall last")
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To: Graymatter
Ah, they are probably going to test negative for Iranian intelligence, and the Pentagon denial will shortly follow.

I could agree with that, except that I would swap the word Penatgon for U.S. State Department.

22 posted on 07/07/2004 7:20:26 AM PDT by KriegerGeist ("Only one life to live and soon it is past, and only what was done for Jesus Christ shall last")
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To: Az. Mike
An Act of War! On to Tehran!

With what?

23 posted on 07/07/2004 7:21:39 AM PDT by gilliam
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To: gilliam

"An Act of War! On to Tehran!
With what?"


I wish I could dispute your answer. Unfortunately I can't.


24 posted on 07/07/2004 7:24:09 AM PDT by cripplecreek (you tell em i'm commin.... and hells commin with me.)
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To: johniegrad

They identified themselves as Iranian intelligence officers? Why would they do this?

Because they are not very smart.


25 posted on 07/07/2004 7:29:05 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: Graymatter

according to unnamed DNCIA sources...


26 posted on 07/07/2004 7:31:03 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Geist Krieger

The GWB doctrine intends to destroy the infrastructure that support terrorism (Syria, Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia). Iraq was the geographical key because control of this country allows US to separate the remaining three and establish a base to attack either one of them. Control of Iraq and fomenting Iraqi anger against Iran and Syris will allow the Iraqi government to unite their nation and build a ground army to fight either one. Our airpower and SOF teams with Iraqi troops can defeat the armies of Iran. This may weaken the Tehran government so the people and students can overthrow it in the streets. Once Iran falls, a major paymaster for terrorists is gone, leaving Syria severely isolated. Either Assad submits like Libya or face destruction. If all these objects are achieved, the terrorists will be badly weakened and the Saudis can not sit on the fence. She must go after the terrorist support structure in their country or the US/Iran and Iraq will do it for them. I think after Iraq there are more wars and battles to come. If we are successful, GWB will change the landscape of the Middle East.


27 posted on 07/07/2004 7:55:07 AM PDT by Fee (Amatuers always tell you what they want, but it is the professionals who figure out the logistics)
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To: johniegrad
They identified themselves as Iranian intelligence officers? Why would they do this?

Not very intelligent or they were just afraid that we might put them in jail with ladies underwear on their heads.....

28 posted on 07/07/2004 7:55:44 AM PDT by b4its2late (John Kerry Edwards changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: gilliam

Ever heard of the U.S. Military and airstrikes? Don't buy into the 'we're spread too thin' crap - we've got plenty of troops still stationed around the world, that we can call upon.


29 posted on 07/07/2004 8:00:08 AM PDT by Az. Mike
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To: johniegrad

My guess is we showed them what would happen when we turned them over to the Iraqi interrogators if they couldn't provide reasonable answers to some simple questions. The video tapes of Iraqi interrogation methods were pretty persuasive.


30 posted on 07/07/2004 8:03:05 AM PDT by Poodlebrain
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To: gilliam
An Act of War! On to Tehran!

With what?

With airpower...at first. 6 months of intense shawk 'n awe. May never need to send troops...depending on how the Iranian opposition reacts.

I would approach Iran much as we approached Afganistan. Minimal ground forces, mostly spec ops designating targets and organizing resistance. We don't want to try and occupy Iran, too many things can go wrong.

31 posted on 07/07/2004 8:09:18 AM PDT by NeonKnight
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To: joesnuffy

Why not just equip the new Iraqi military with M1A1 Abrams, Bradly fighting vehicles, Strykers and U-64 Apaches. They could sweep through Iran fairly quickly.... we might have to provide some additional air support or atleast shoot down the Iran Airforce.


32 posted on 07/07/2004 8:11:43 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: johniegrad

More like Iranian unintelligence officers.


33 posted on 07/07/2004 8:15:30 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: johniegrad
They identified themselves as Iranian intelligence officers? Why would they do this?

They may have been identified by certain documents they had, who they were in contact with, or any number of means. After you're busted as an actual spy, your options are quite limited. Coming clean may be their only chance to avoid execution.

35 posted on 07/07/2004 8:24:20 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (Iran almost has nuclear weapons. They will get them unless we stop them.)
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To: johniegrad

Being an election year, they figured they were safe.


36 posted on 07/07/2004 8:24:42 AM PDT by Dead Dog (Expose the Media to Light, Expose the Media to Market Forces.)
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To: Buckhead
We'd need a Congressional authorization for waging war against Iran, and Congress would never give it at this point.

Not, if we are done in 60 days.

37 posted on 07/07/2004 8:25:40 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: Graymatter

Ah, they are probably going to test negative for Iranian intelligence, and the Pentagon denial will shortly follow

that was so funny I just choked on my soda


38 posted on 07/07/2004 8:27:41 AM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: cripplecreek

at the very least send a cruise missle or two to Iranian Intelligence. I know it seems clintonian (except I would do it during the day when there are actually people there) but some response is required.


39 posted on 07/07/2004 8:30:58 AM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: Buckhead
Actually, they have that covered in the first Resolution:

Congressional Record: September 14, 2001 (House) Page H5638

AUTHORIZING USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES AGAINST THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR RECENT ATTACKS AGAINST THE UNITED STATES

The text of H.J. Res. 64 is as follows:

H.J. Res. 64

.....blah blah blah....

This joint resolution may be cited as the "Authorization for Use of Military Force".

SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) In General.--That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any further acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

A little loosey goosey, but the Supremes would up hold it..IMO.

40 posted on 07/07/2004 8:34:28 AM PDT by Dead Dog (Expose the Media to Light, Expose the Media to Market Forces.)
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