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My First Wild Week with "Fahrenheit 9/11"... By Michael Moore (count the lies and distortions)
michaelmoore.com ^ | Sunday, July 4th, 2004 | By Michael Moore

Posted on 07/05/2004 11:34:31 AM PDT by weegee

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To: JmyBryan
There is another documentary that they left are celebrating. It is a documentary about Al Jazeera that was shot during the war in Iraq.

These people would have readily consumed Hitler and Stalin's own propaganda (AND BELIEVED IT) in the quest for "balance" against the US media.

Funny how their quest for balance never includes listening to the conservative positions which are never communicated in the media.

61 posted on 07/05/2004 5:49:59 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: weegee

"Bush spokesman Dan Bartlett had told the White House press corps that the movie was "outrageously false" -- even though he said he hadn't seen the movie."

I saw the movie, and I can say it was outrageously false.


62 posted on 07/05/2004 7:23:09 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: adam_az
I haven't seen The Eternal Jew (1940) either but judging from the source and the comments I've read, it is outrageously (as in "outrage") false too.

Sometimes you don't need to see a film or counter all of its arguments and "facts" to condemn it.

63 posted on 07/05/2004 7:31:49 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: weegee

"Sometimes you don't need to see a film or counter all of its arguments and "facts" to condemn it."

A friend downloaded a video cam rip from the internet, so I got to watch it in a comforatable living room, not a theatre full of LLL.

I'm glad I saw it. Now when some loser challenges, "how can you say it's full of crap, man, when you haven't seen it, man!" then I can say I've seen it and speak better to it's lies than if I hadn't seen it. Also, I know directly how gullible the people are who buy it.

THe fact that he played up Costa Rica as a member of the coalition and a few other little countries but never mentions the Aussies or Brits is a little suspicious for starters. The whole thing is an exercise in propagandistic deception.

Even Hitchens skewered it. Hell, even ISIKOFF skewered it.


64 posted on 07/05/2004 8:58:22 PM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: weegee
There have been a couple of threads on FR that were pulled that discussed that. I gather that one gave his personal contact information. I do not know why the other one was pulled.

I wish somebody would start a new thread on it. I know that our outrage over the Dixie Chicks helped make it a national story; I hope publicity of Dale Jr.'s comments would help do the same thing.

65 posted on 07/06/2004 12:00:11 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: montag813
Nonsense! Roger Friedman is a liberal who loved "Columbine", so again Moore is lying lying lying.

Exactly. Not to mention that Friedman is a gossip columnist.

66 posted on 07/06/2004 12:18:40 AM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: adam_az
I heard about his ignorance (feigned or genuine but "ignored" all the same) of nations like England and Poland (and Spain?).

I may be able to view a bootleg of this (if not a genuine release). Not of my possession but at acquaintences homes.

Even Micheal Moore has supposedly said that he doesn't get hurt by these non-commercial bootleg screenings.

He should be careful, I'm liable to jump out of my seat if the horsesh!& gets too high (and we all know THAT'S gonna happen).

Seriously though, I've had a few friends pumped about this film, a few speculative, and a few closeted conservatives that know what a crapload it is. I never nod my head in agreement and I don't particularly feign apathy. I know what drunk bums these useful idiots are and ignore their politicking altogether.

I did talk with my "speculative" friend and plan to show him Disney's WWII feature "Victory Through Airpower" this week. It is propaganda (but it does not pull punches with the Germans or Japanese) and is designed to change the government's military strategy (for the better, not appeasement). It worked when Churchill recommended to FDR to SEE THIS MOVIE.

My speculative friend is one of the guys who buys into the "republicans are the party of rich guys" but he also knows that Kerry is even richer than GWB and that Kerry has pledged to raise taxes. He feels damned if you do and damned if you don't.

He works for the airlines and was directly impacted when flights got grounded after 9/11. He has found steady work now (in his field) so he does not blame the administration.

I don't seek to "win him over" to conservativism (although I don't see many thorns over the issues). I think that he is still skeptical when I call some on the left communists or antiAmericans but then he has been sheltered from the visions of the left in America that I have seen and personally encountered.

67 posted on 07/06/2004 12:40:51 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: NYCVirago
I'm no NASCAR follower (I like customs and Indy). That said, I still don't know Earnhardt's intentions. Maybe being po'ed at the film give him the rush he needs to be amped up driving the course.

It was still foolish to "encourage" others to pay to see this tripe.

The Vichy Chippies were more direct in their AntiAmericanism (voiced on foreign soil).

68 posted on 07/06/2004 1:07:41 AM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: weegee

Regarding the "Earnhardt Oil slick" , I sent a shout out to Sean hannity,
I hope he brings it up on the air, If it is true I would like to see ol'Bump and run jr, get a rash inside that fire suit.


69 posted on 07/06/2004 1:21:14 AM PDT by Freesofar (FREEDOM !)
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To: rushmom
OK Gang. I keep getting spammed by some guy with my e-mail address. And all he is doing is sending out Michael Moore news.

Please help by hitting him back intelligently:

jwlogan@LifeSuccessTools.com

loganjonathan@comcast.net

70 posted on 07/06/2004 6:23:50 AM PDT by CT (Oppose Left Wing Anti-American 'Hatriotsim)
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To: weegee

"I heard about his ignorance (feigned or genuine but "ignored" all the same) of nations like England and Poland (and Spain?)."

NONE of them are mentioned.

He plays up Iceland, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Morocco.


71 posted on 07/06/2004 7:18:55 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State Republican Party office and VOLUNTEER!!!!)
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To: CT; Admin Moderator

That email name looks suspiciously like a (former?) FReeper account name.


72 posted on 07/06/2004 2:39:52 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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To: weegee
That email name looks suspiciously like a (former?) FReeper account name.

Don't think so. The guy was actually a business contact I once had. Suspiciously left wing, no doubt.

Had already asked him once to remove my name. Now I leave it to other Freepers to bombard him with Anti-Moore facts.

And thanks.

73 posted on 07/06/2004 4:34:19 PM PDT by CT (Oppose Left Wing Anti-American 'Hatriotsim)
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