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Bush's Winning Strategy
NY Times ^ | July 3, 2004 | DAVID BROOKS

Posted on 07/02/2004 10:35:56 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 07/02/2004 10:35:56 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
The members of the sneering brigade had it backward...[transferring sovereignty earlier] was the only way to get enough legitimacy to fight the insurgents and work on rebuilding. -David Brooks

And it looks to me like the IP are off to an agressive start with respect to counterinsurgency. Political correctness was stifling effectiveness - witness Abu Ghraib.

2 posted on 07/02/2004 10:49:53 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: neverdem
Now we can have the legitimate Iraqi government beat the cr*p out of all those "millitants" particularly the foreign ones without the western press getting their knickers in a knot.

Apply tag line and retire for the night.

3 posted on 07/02/2004 10:50:02 PM PDT by spokeshave (strategery + schadenfreude = stratenschadenfreudery)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
And it looks to me like the IP are off to an agressive start with respect to counterinsurgency. Political correctness was stifling effectiveness - witness Abu Ghraib.

And we won't have to worry about the "civil rights" of the captured terrorists. We can just hand them over to the IP.

4 posted on 07/02/2004 10:53:40 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: neverdem

We could never keep American support for a long, drawn-out and increasingly bloody occupation. But we can keep it to defend an ally under assault by enemies opposed to freedom. In politics, perception makes all the difference. It looks like we're on the right track now in Iraq.


5 posted on 07/02/2004 10:55:57 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem
I'm surprised that David Brooks is still writing for the NYT.

The NYT wits must be real nervous.

6 posted on 07/02/2004 10:57:09 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!!!)
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To: goldstategop

I agree with you...


7 posted on 07/02/2004 10:58:52 PM PDT by meanie monster
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To: neverdem
Pressure mounted for a quicker transfer of sovereignty. In October, Donald Rumsfeld called Bremer home for all-day consultations on how to get a serious interim Iraqi government. Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the Shiite leader, was demanding elections much sooner, while the official U.S. position was that they should be put off. "How did we end up not being in favor of elections?" President Bush asked.

Of course it would take the President and Secretary of Defense, to cut through the typical diplomatic paralysis. Then there is Kerry, McCain and all the rest who called for more troops, as if more "occupiers" would solve the problems or hasten the solution.

8 posted on 07/02/2004 11:02:00 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: neverdem
The only people who objected to our tough tactics were the liberals in the US and europe. The Iraqis will get very tough and they will bring the insurgents to justice. They are in a confidence building mode right now, and as soon as they get a little more experience under their belts they will go after the bad guys and hang them.

The people will gladly cooperate with them, they love their new IP and National Guard (I love it that they changed the name) and they will give them all the information they need.

9 posted on 07/02/2004 11:07:15 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: neverdem
The winning strategy is to focus on

Be Proud of America!!! We Are A Good Nation!!!

Meanwhile the dems are way overboard slandering America and bad mouthing everything that Americans are.

Once again bush judos the sob's with their own momentum. Now fire back with proud-positive-patriotism!!

10 posted on 07/02/2004 11:07:17 PM PDT by Porterville (Fight Communism, vote Republican- and piss on france)
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To: neverdem
JEAN-FRAUD 2004

WHINING STRATEGY

12 posted on 07/02/2004 11:20:26 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: neverdem
Second, the Iraqis really do have a galvanizing hunger for democracy.

That's all we need to know, Iraq will be a historical success, Bush will go down in history as one of the greatest presidents of our time.
13 posted on 07/02/2004 11:30:35 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: PhilDragoo

LOL, so that what happened to his old jock strap, Teraza had it gilded for him!!!


14 posted on 07/02/2004 11:47:27 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: smoothsailing

IIRC, after the Jayson Blair affair, the Slimes had to do something...


15 posted on 07/03/2004 12:55:52 AM PDT by swilhelm73 (We always have been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France.")
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To: neverdem
I hated David Brooks' interview on O'Reilly the other night, but this is a good article.

The following is really hopeful: Politically, at least, its constancy is paying off. Since the transfer I've had candid conversations with four senior officials with responsibility for Iraq. They are more cautiously optimistic than at any time over the past year. One puts the odds of a successful outcome at three to one. Iraq now has a popular government with a tough, capable prime minister. Democratic institutions are emerging, including a culture of compromise. Clerics are now preaching against insurgents. Sistani calls them sinners, and prohibits cooperation.

16 posted on 07/03/2004 4:53:11 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: goldstategop
Exactly. No one knows what would have happened if we had "leveled" Fallujah. Would the number of new anti-Americans exceeded the numbers killed and/or the impact of that? My Lt. Col. Marine cousin thinks the Fallujah strat was proper and reasonable. I do agree that Alawi will have much more success culling out spies and informants in the absence of a "scorched earth" policy.

The point is, there are no simple answers, nor were there ever. Neither Rummy, nor Bush, nor even Powell ever said there would be. It's amazing that if you look at the American occupation of the Philippines post-1898, or at Germany, that we had VERY similar problems, and, with patience, excellent results.

17 posted on 07/03/2004 6:00:27 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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BTW, for what it's worth, Rush Limbaugh exponded on almost this EXACT strategy about four weeks ago, arguing there was something "magical" about that June 30 deadline, and that the key was allowing the IRAQIS to "demand" that we take care of Fallujah or "find" the WMDs, and that once the IRAQIS requested, say, NATO or Arab help, it would be impossible to deny. Well, witness that Jordan and (I think) Kuwait have now said they would send troops to Iraq.


18 posted on 07/03/2004 6:02:36 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news.)
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To: neverdem
'Scientific' view forecasts a big Bush win
Reuters
July 01, 2004
Polls may show the presidential race in a dead heat, but for a small band of academics who use scientific formulas to predict elections, President Bush is on his way to a sizable win... Most of these academics are predicting Bush, bolstered by robust economic growth, will win between 53 and 58 percent of the votes cast for him and his Democratic opponent John Kerry... But one glaring error is what the forecasters are perhaps best remembered for: They predicted in 2000 that Democrat Al Gore would win easily, pegging his total at between 53 and 60 percent of the two-party vote... The forecasters chalk up the 2000 error to Gore's campaign, which distanced itself from the Clinton record. All the models assume the candidates will run reasonably competent campaigns, said Thomas Holbrook, a professor at the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee... Holbrook uses an economic indicator from the University of Michigan's survey of consumers. One question asks whether respondents are better or worse off financially than they were a year before. In May, 45 percent said they were better off. That is lower than the all-time election year high of 54 percent in 2000, Holbrook said, but higher than the 39 percent in 1996 when Clinton was re-elected.

19 posted on 07/03/2004 6:41:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Unlike some people, I have a profile. Okay, maybe it's a little large...)
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To: neverdem

BTTT


20 posted on 07/03/2004 6:56:46 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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