Police state, ho!

Razormouth.com ^ | 6/28/04 | John Whitehead

[nopardons]

You aren't telling me anything that I don't know and know rather well;probably far better than you.I was in the "belly of the beast",so to speak,at the height of the hippy/Yippy/SDS/Weatherman madness.I was living in Manhattan.

When Mark Rudd was taking over Columbia,I told my mother that these people were all the children of stinking American Commies,at a time when NO ONE said that/admitted to it.Said the same thing,when the Weatherman blew up a magnificent brownstone,whilst making bombs in the basement.

I was reading the EVO (the farther left than the Village Voice,counter culture newspaper) to see what that side was up to,in the late '60s.

I happened,quite unintentionally,upon Abbie Hoffman,et al, training the troops,in Central Park,in gorilla war fare,to get them prepared for the Dem Convention in the summer of '68.

Trust me,I know and understand that period and its people.I don't give them "too little credit".They did NOT throw a revolution,though they really tried to set one off.Abetted by the media and wealthy limousine Liberals,they did change the culture;unfortunately,but they were just continuing what their parents and grandparents had begun.

OTOH,your childish ideas are puerile and would be ineffective.It is NOT the way to go and the NRST is a day dream...which even most of those of us who want less taxes,don't want. I want a flat tax.

Infiltration works...that's what the stinking Commies did and it takes decades.Your way is nuts and won't work at all.Instant gratification is what toddlers expect;grownups have patience and work quietly and steadily.

[eno_]

You would Rather world on a Libby Dole campaign than work for a 3rd party?

Arlen Specter?

Where do you draw the line?

[clamper1797]

Post # 44

seems that he/she/it has a rather short or convenient memory too.

[eno_]

Not that I'm opposed to infiltration.

You should be kinder to your fellow Republicans, especially ones that are signing off to attend a fundraiser this evening, checkbook in hand.

I do work on the inside. But I don't limit myself.

[nopardons]

Fringe parties are absolutely,100% worthless! The ONLY thing they can do,is work as a spoiler.

And no,fringe parties will NEVER amount to much.They come and go,but NEVER make a mark.And don't tell me that the GOP was a third party...it was a faction,a HUGE faction of an already dying out party,which refused to move with the times.There will NEVER be large enough faction of the GOP,who will defect to the absurd Libertarians,nor to the infinitesimally wee Constitution Party.

Where do I draw the line? I don't know...that line has yet to appear.I am a realist,a realist who doesn't delude herself with childish UTOPIAN daydreams of " revolution".

Back in the '60s,I was FREEPING,when most FREEPERS were little kids or not even born yet.I fought with card carrying Commies,nose to nose,in Greenwich Village and changed minds,with FACTS.I spit on those who were spitting on returning service men.I fought the crazies,using their own words against them and shocked them into silence.

Don't you dare preach at me,nor cast aspersions,when you are the one who is the one who thinks that real life is a video game.

[nopardons]

I don't suffer fools lightly.

Stick to changing things from within and do everything you can,to enlighten those around you,who have yet to see the light.Fringe options are NO options at all!

[eno_]

Ummm, you're the one having a blood pressure event here.

I'm the one on the way to write a check for a Republican congressional candidate.

You're the one who thinks Arlen Specter is not beyond the pale.

And you are telling me I'm not mainstream?

[nopardons]

Your crystal ball is cracked...I'm as calm as can be.Actually,I'm so bored by you and those like you,who type drivel,I'm falling asleep.

Yawn...........my money and time has been used for months now,to help re-elect the president and my local people.You're the one thinking that it's only you,who donates money.Hey...what about your time too?

Arlen is the candidate.Would you rather a Dem wins and they take over the Senate? Let's get a real majority and THEN cull the damned RINOS! You don't understand politics;nobody should pay attention to what you have to say.You're the one who needs lessons in being a "silent" and effective "revolutionary",as well as in government/politics.

[inquest]

I'm as calm as can be.Actually,I'm so bored by you and those like you,who type drivel,I'm falling asleep.

Is that why you've been typing these multi-paragraph responses - complete with your screeching caps - and summing it up with a haughty "Don't you dare preach at me"?

nobody should pay attention to what you have to say.

So then why are you paying attention to what he has to say?

[nopardons]

You people,who imagine that you can see through words,as to how I am,are just too funny for words.

I reply,to be polite.What's your excuse,for chiming in? :-)

[inquest]

You people,who imagine that you can see through words,as to how I am,are just too funny for words.

Kinda like people who imagine that others are "UNAPPPEASABLE!!!" ? (calmly, of course)

What's your excuse,for chiming in?

Just a mild sense of curiosity.

[nopardons]

Okay...here's the deal,no lying,no hype,and just an honest,for real reply.

Have have on the low end of normal blood pressure.I am as calm as clam can be.I have a certain posting style,which you may not like,but many others do.

There are folks here,who are UNAPPEASABLES...so I call a spade a spade.Others use the term as well.It isn't against posting regs.

No...curiosity shows itself in other ways than jumping on a poster and one single post.You're looking for a flame war.Too bad,I'm not in the least interested in toying with you.;^)

[headsonpikes]

I am as calm as clam can be.

You must be calm, indeed. I think we all know that clams are d*mned calm!

[nopardons]

Nothing better to do,than have a hissy fit over a typo?LOL

[headsonpikes]

Hissy fit?

I was just making a jest, man.

Step away from your computer.

[nopardons]

You first. :-)

[headsonpikes]

I'll clam up. ;^)

[O.C. - Old Cracker]

Enough what? Are you feeling trod on? These are perilous times, laddie. Best belt up and act like a man. Less whining, more action.

[af_vet_rr]

Voting for fring party candidates is useless,an activity to be decried and derided.The ONLY uselful activity,is to work within a majority party.Keyboard generals,for the most part,are all talk,no do

I'm talking about reality - the reality is that too many of us have tried to work within the GOP, have tried to push non-RINO candidates and causes, and it's like we are taking two steps forward and three steps back.

Have you not noticed the trend to move towards the middle?

I understand why the GOP is moving that way, the reality is, if we want to beat the democrats, we have to pick up a lot of their voters. Look at Florida, if it weren't for so many registered democrats voting for Bush, Gore would be our President right now. Nader's registered democrats were a drop in the bucket compared to the numbers Bush got.

I know a third party is unrealistic, but just imagine, if a truly Conservative third party popped up with even 15% of the voters in the US. The GOP would have a choice - side with democrats and move the platform further to the left, or listen to and work with the new party.