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Financial Sense ^ | 06/17/04 | John Mackenzie

Posted on 06/29/2004 7:27:51 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: SAJ

Apparently I didn't make myself clear AT ALL. I wasn't accusing YOU of "picking days", I was trying to figure out how I had gotten a distorted recollection of the recovery from the October '87 crash. (Back in those years I was raising babies, not paying much attention to the markets, but I distinctly remembered later reading about it, to the effect that most or all of those losses had been made by in just a few months.) By showing that 2/3 of the loss from the October highs had NOT been made back in 3 months, while 2/3 of the the Black Monday loss HAD been recovered, I thought I had made that clear.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.


41 posted on 06/30/2004 4:07:25 AM PDT by walden
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To: walden
Perhaps some graphical data support would help?

The Dow from the Crash of 1987
42 posted on 06/30/2004 8:18:47 AM PDT by gipper81
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To: TigerLikesRooster

990N = NSA? CIA?


43 posted on 06/30/2004 8:22:56 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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Re #43

It could be more like HUD+DOD+CIA+Treasury+FRB. You can find more by reading the following transcript:

America's Black Budget & the Manipulation of Mortgage & Financial Markets

44 posted on 06/30/2004 8:31:45 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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I was going to include those too,

but not all the keys work on my keyboard.........

or I could just be lazy..............

thanks for the link


45 posted on 06/30/2004 8:45:44 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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Open Letter to National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice By Catherine Austin Fitts www.globalresearch.ca
46 posted on 06/30/2004 9:02:33 AM PDT by gipper81
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Some people do fine with financial analyses, however, they tend to weave far-fetched conspiracy theories when they put national security and finance together. I do not think that 9/11 is a scam to take massive windfall profit. It is too risky to be a planned event. She seems to be creating a grand conspiracy scenario post hoc.

47 posted on 06/30/2004 9:18:18 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Fair enough. I just wanted to do some additional research to see who she is.


48 posted on 06/30/2004 9:21:14 AM PDT by gipper81
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Another view...

You artificially hold the market up and maybe even change the behavior of traders if you do it long enough. Then you wait till a time of your choosing and remove the "upward stimulus" thus guaranteeing a drop and probably confusion. Even if the drop is not substantial it can give a political party a needed boost when aired in the proper way by the media. (at the very least)
49 posted on 06/30/2004 9:49:09 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist democrat=socialist therefore democrat = Nazi)
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People in finance work to make money. There is no money to make in tanking a market to throw an election. Soros is different. However, he is still a small guy compared with other big boys whose well-being depends on holding up the market. They may not even care who wins the election.


50 posted on 06/30/2004 10:01:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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Here we are talking motives.


money or power?


I think lust for ultimate power trumps that of money.

I know I would give up everything I own if would lead to the extinction of collectivists. I know that in a free world that I could regain whatever I lost through hard work.

The "financial" types you speak of have more money than they know what to do with. Most of these people are content to make allot of money and enjoy life but there are those that seek the political game. Power is not something that money can buy (not to a very large degree), whatever you are selling or whatever you want to buy the other party has the option to refuse you. Real power comes through the governments ability to tell you what to do and then send men with guns if you disobey. Thats why leftist crave governmental power. Rich, poor, ideologues, sociopaths, environmentalists it doesn't matter they all want to make other people behave in a specific manner and they need the men with guns that the government employees to make it real.

Is it a smart investment to risk a fortune for absolute power? Yeah, for some with that mentality it is.


This may ultimatly be shown to be a hoax but I do not doubt that there are some attempting to manipulate the markets for their own acquisition of power. We already know they will commit vote fraud on a massive scale why is market manipulation below them?
51 posted on 06/30/2004 11:04:33 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist democrat=socialist therefore democrat = Nazi)
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