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Army Refuses to Distribute Fallen Friends Medals
Associated Press ^ | June 26, 2004 | Elizabeth A. Davis

Posted on 06/26/2004 4:22:37 AM PDT by BluegrassScholar

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To: Graybeard58
I was a member of the USAF honor guard from 1963 to 1967 and attended literally thousands of funerals there including JFKs. Three or four a day at times.

Very honored to meet you. I'm sure JFK's was one of the more moving. I did visit his site in '64, and visited the cemetery many times. I just wish a few of the Michael Moore ilk could walk through there. Take care

41 posted on 06/26/2004 11:55:39 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: BluegrassScholar; carton253; Bobby777; Geist Krieger; Salem; dennisw; SJackson; FBD; Smartass; ...
"Thoughts?"

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I agree with B4Ranch that what you are now seeing is the manifestation of at least 18 years of planned "deprogramming" Christianity out of our Armed Forces.

It's a known fact that George Herbert Walker Bush is (and was when he was President) an avowed "One Worlder" and he even stated such on numerous occasions and with great pride to the fact.

Clinton followed suit, and the present Commander-In-Chief is not about to take the United Nations precedent out of the designed evolution of our armed forces that does not include any one single "religion" at it's core.

Instead, you can hear such phrases from the president as "Christians and Muslims all pray to the same God." and such similar direct statements by the president that he has bought into the concept of a "One World Religion" in which no religion is singled out above any other one, but all are equal in the sight of God.

Don't shoot the messengers here folks, this is just a fact of life - Christianity is no longer accepted as the only religion in our armed forces. And for that reason, anyone advocating any endorsement of Christianity is considered to be officially "off limits" - all thanks to our buying into a "One God For All" world religion.

Here is an example of how this doctrine of no longer recognizing Christianity or the God of Isaac, Jacob and David as the "only religion":

and how it is quickly being transformed into a Unted States Armed forces of the "New World Order" force recognizing one G-d - the same one, for each religion:

(Read this and weep . .) _____________________________________

Recent hearings by Senator John Kyl’s subcommittee on terrorism have exposed the growing dominance of a radical sect of Islam in the United States.

This sect, commonly referred to as Wahhabism, preaches jihad against Christian, Jews, and Muslims who don't toe the Wahhabi line. All 19 of the September 11 hijackers were followers of Wahhabism, as is Osama bin Laden. This violent perversion of Islamic faith has been responsible for terrorist attacks against innocent civilians — both Muslim and non-Muslim — all over the world.

As a movement, Wahhabism has established publishing operations, schools, and charities in many countries. The self-labeled "educational outreach" of this movement — financed largely by the wealth of Saudi Arabia, where Wahhabism is the official, and only state, religion — foments jihad and a fundamentalist theology to young people internationally, including in the United States.

And there have been a increasing number of instances in which Wahhabists have successfully penetrated key U.S. institutions, such as the military and our prison system. As several recent media reports have noted, the two groups that accredit and recommend Muslim chaplains to the military — the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences and an organization under the umbrella of the American Muslim Foundation — have long been suspected of links to terrorist organizations by the federal government. The Graduate School and another group accused of ties to Islamic extremists — the Islamic Society of North America — also refer Muslim clerics to the U.S. Bureau of Prisons.

Just this week, one of the key architects of the U.S. military's chaplain program, Abdurahman Alamoudi, was arrested and charged with an illegal relationship with Libya, long a state sponsor of terror. Federal investigators also have detained a Muslim clergymen who was once stationed at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba — Captain James Yee — and is being investigated for potential ties to al Qaeda.

The New York State prison system promoted a Muslim cleric to a position that allowed him to supervise the hiring and firing of all prison chaplains. He was later removed from his job when officials discovered he was an al Qaeda sympathizer who incited prisoners against America. Jose Padilla, a terrorist accused of trying to build a "dirty bomb" to unleash in the United States, was exposed to radical Islam in the U.S. prison system. Richard Reid, the so-called "shoe bomber," was converted to fundamentalist Islam while serving time in a British prison.

On Tuesday, I chaired a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Security that analyzed the procedures used by the military and prison system to recruit Muslims, particularly focusing on the cleric program. We also examined whether the instances of Wahhabi infiltration at key U.S. institutions may be part of a larger pattern. We heard from government witnesses on steps they are taking to confront these challenges and outside experts attesting to terrorists' efforts to exploit a free society to conduct the wide range of activities necessary for effective terror operations.

In response to our Senate inquiry, groups whose terror-related activities are being scrutinized by my subcommittee as well as the federal government have been quick to accuse investigators of Muslim bias. Falsely charging "bigotry," however, is simply not an acceptable response to serious allegations of criminal activity. Terrorists should not be allowed to disguise their hateful, violent activities under the banner of religious freedom. The fear of being falsely accused of prejudice, coupled with political correctness, may be part of the reason we got into the situation we're in right now.

America is a welcoming nation, and Americans are respectful of all faiths. It's time we confront the evil that has distorted and victimized the peace-loving, mainstream Muslim community. In the Senate, we intend to do just that.

Senator Jon Kyl is a Republican senator from Arizona.

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42 posted on 06/26/2004 5:29:49 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: B4Ranch

"Just as President Bush is making his Dads wishes come true by funding $600 million to build a UN standing army."

Of course John Kerry wouldn't be any better. So that leaves only one option open.


43 posted on 06/26/2004 5:44:22 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: writer33
"Just as President Bush is making his Dads wishes come true by funding $600 million to build a UN standing army."

Of course John Kerry wouldn't be any better. So that leaves only one option open.

....and what might that be?

44 posted on 06/26/2004 6:45:32 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

Reelect Bush. I see no other alternative. That is unless you'd rather have another liberal in power for four years. But that's entirely up to you.


45 posted on 06/26/2004 6:53:29 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: writer33
I'm NOT the one putting down President Bush here you are.

If the following quote from you doesnt suggest a third alternative I don't know what does:

"Just as President Bush is making his Dads wishes come true by funding $600 million to build a UN standing army."

Of course John Kerry wouldn't be any better. So that leaves only one option open.

46 posted on 06/26/2004 6:58:41 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

"Just as President Bush is making his Dads wishes come true by funding $600 million to build a UN standing army."

This is not my quote. It is B4Ranch's quote. I was responding to his animosity towards President Bush by saying that Kerry would be an even worse President. Somewhere you've crossed wires. I didn't say that.


47 posted on 06/26/2004 7:01:11 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: writer33
My apologies to you.

I was "pinged to post #42 and having made more comments already on this thread I just read from #42 onward this time.

I saw what I thought was a statement that you made not realizing that you were quoting someone else because I didn't see Italics. They aren't neccessary as you DID use quotation marks.

I have been voting for Republican and conservative candidates since I was a baby (Seems like it anyway) My adult children tell me I am to the right of Rush Limbaugh and I was about to get my dander up at someone implying that I might be a lib.

Again - My apologies to you.

48 posted on 06/26/2004 7:12:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58

"I have been voting for Republican and conservative candidates since I was a baby (Seems like it anyway) My adult children tell me I am to the right of Rush Limbaugh and I was about to get my dander up at someone implying that I might be a lib.

Again - My apologies to you."

No need to apologize. That's what this forum is for. It's for debating these issues. Now. If we could only get President Bush to apologize for Iraq, we'd be home free. :) HA!

I thought you'd find that amusing.

Chris
P.S. I'm glad that at least a few people read it. It was intended in full support of President Bush. And thank you for the compliments. I appreciate 'em. I really do.


49 posted on 06/26/2004 7:36:39 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: Graybeard58

>>I have been voting for Republican and conservative candidates since I was a baby<<

Just how happy are you with our Republican and conservative candidates?

I am disgusted with every one of them. They look and act more like Dims than I could have ever imagined!


50 posted on 06/26/2004 7:58:20 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: B4Ranch
Just how happy are you with our Republican and conservative candidates?

I am disgusted with every one of them. They look and act more like Dims than I could have ever imagined!

Come November I'll be voting for G.W.B.

51 posted on 06/26/2004 8:01:15 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: leadpenny
A Lieutenant Colonel did not make this decision.

You haven't served in the militay in the last 10 years have you? Unit Christmas parties are now "Holiday Parties." They even sell "Holiday Cookies" to raise funds for the party.

52 posted on 06/26/2004 8:09:29 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Graybeard58
There arent any crosses in Arlington National Cemetery.

Then what's that above Admiral Byrd's name?

53 posted on 06/26/2004 8:13:15 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

Read the rest of my posts on this thread, especially the relevant ones.


54 posted on 06/26/2004 8:14:58 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
There arent any crosses in Arlington National Cemetery.

What is that above Pappy Boyington's name?

55 posted on 06/26/2004 8:15:10 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
Again read my posts and you will know that I was talking about markers not inscriptions on markers and have told the original person I was discussing it with that I could even be wrong about that. It has nothing at all to do with inscriptions on markers.

Try to keep up.

56 posted on 06/26/2004 8:17:23 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
Read the rest of my posts on this thread, especially the relevant ones.

Ok I did and I still find that most of the 20th century markers HAVE a cross on them.

Are we going to have to chisel them off?


57 posted on 06/26/2004 8:25:39 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
Again read my posts and you will know that I was talking about markers not inscriptions on marker

What part of the above quote of mine do you continue not to get?

58 posted on 06/26/2004 8:30:13 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: FreedomCalls
Any further posts from you may as well be addressed to yourself. They wont be read by me.

What are you smoking anyway that you can't seem to get it? (A rhetorical question)

59 posted on 06/26/2004 8:32:14 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: Graybeard58
I argued your point with a fellow freeper, based on a poor memory and he corrected me with tons of pictures.

So you were originally right, but someone said you were wrong, so now what's wrong is right and what's right is wrong. Is that right? Or am I wrong?

60 posted on 06/26/2004 8:44:45 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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