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Why Jews Welcome Muslims
Frontpagemag.com ^ | June 22, 04 | Lawrence Auster

Posted on 06/23/2004 10:42:14 AM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: bereanway
Then what is this about? And this?

It is very easy to find information on the 1996 SBC resolution exhorting a targeting of Jews for conversion... just do a Google search, there are a lot of different attempts, both straightforward (like the SBC resolution noted above) and deceptive (Messianism, Jews for Jesus).

Perhaps Jews are simply more aware of these things than the average Christian, since they apply directly to us.

61 posted on 06/23/2004 11:36:06 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: subterfuge

That's IT?..after such a vehement inital disagreement? (G)..I was all set to put on my flame retartdent underwear..


62 posted on 06/23/2004 11:36:42 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: thoughtomator
Apparently you've never been on the receiving end of an evangelical conversion attempt. Saying it's not as bad as Islam is not much of a comfort.

Yes I have. But it seems unlike you I am strong enough to deal with it and not feel personally threatened, which I will never get. Comparing islam and Christianity is just sick! Even the Christian cults (Mormonism, Jehovah's Witnesses) are not at threat to your person unlike islam. You can tell Christianity no without fear of life because it is a choice that each person must make and there are many who will say no and even that is accepted in Christianity. But having fear because they ask... what a joke!

What the Catholic Church did in the past when it was not following the Bible is not Protestant Christianity. This is the one thing that the Jews I know can not separate they see only the Catholic Church history as Christianity. There is a big difference. America is unique as a country because of our Protestant Christianity and its principles used in the founding of this country. I will never get the fear of it,because it has created the freedoms this country offers, nor do I understand the wanting to get rid of these principles and the equating them with evil.

63 posted on 06/23/2004 11:36:45 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: churchillbuff
this is the authentic title of Auster's article

I went to the Frontpagemag site and the original title there is Do Immigration Trends Doom Jews? not what you claim it is.

64 posted on 06/23/2004 11:37:00 AM PDT by Alouette ("Your children like olive trees seated round your table." -- Psalm 128:3)
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To: churchillbuff

Yes but that's not the title of the selection you posted. Besides I believe another freeper once posted that Auster article with that title referring to muslims.


65 posted on 06/23/2004 11:37:17 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: thoughtomator
What sort of reaction would you have if another religion targeted you for conversion?

Well, if it was a choice between that or death, I might convert. Most religions don't threaten the unconverted with death, so I think it would be a nuisance, nothing more. No worse than Sears targeting me for a new washing machine, or MTV targeting my daughter for hip-hugger pants.

66 posted on 06/23/2004 11:37:48 AM PDT by webheart
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To: churchillbuff

My mistake. Please accept my apology. Heading restored.


67 posted on 06/23/2004 11:39:51 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: ZULU
I think these views were developed in Eastern and Central Europe due to periodic pogroms there and transported to America and re-assigned to White Christians.

There is a reasom why majority of Jews settled in Eastern Europe - they were tolerated there better than in other parts of the world. And there was no such thing as "periodic" or mass pogroms. The main reason for emigration was the poverty of this part of the world. The mass killing of Jews came from the West - Nazi Germany.

The only exception was a bloody uprising of Ukrainian serfs against their Polish overlords and Jewish overseers. This took place in 1648 and hundreds of thousands of Poles and Jews were slaughtered. (In a sense it was not very different from the peasant wars in Germany directed against the nobility as the main motive was social/economical).

68 posted on 06/23/2004 11:40:18 AM PDT by A. Pole ("When they start beheading your own people[...], then you will know what this is all about." - Slobo)
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To: churchillbuff
You know how I feel about some of your posts but this one is right on. No matter what the title was or is, is irrelevant.

Maybe title got changed over at Front Page Magazine. What's really going on is that American Jews have to wake up and learn that out of control immigration is a negative for them, not to mention America.
69 posted on 06/23/2004 11:42:23 AM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: Admin Moderator; churchillbuff
The links are mixed up.

This article is titled:

Why Jews Welcome Muslims by Lawrence Auster" at http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13894.

You posted the wrong link, now the title is wrong too. Those Admin Moderator’s can’t get anything right :>)

Your link leads to a different article, Do Immigration Trends Doom Jews? at http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13881

As to the premise/title, it’s bogus. Certainly there are liberal Jews who support loose immigration policies, even open borders. More Christian’s support those policies, it’s really a liberal vs conservative thing, but we’ll ignore that.

I never seen a Jewish group specifically advocate targeting Muslims for immigration. The overwhelming majority of immigrants, legal or illegal, are CHRISTIANS. If liberal Jew’s were motivated by a fear of Christian’s, they’d be screaming for the borders to be shut down, especially the one we share with a Catholic nation to the south.

71 posted on 06/23/2004 11:43:39 AM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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To: SJackson

I'm confused too :)


72 posted on 06/23/2004 11:44:36 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Steve_Seattle

I think Christianity is a fine religion for non-Jews, the best of all available alternatives, to my knowledge. The reason Jews don't attempt to convert others, and in fact discourage conversion, is that the essence of Judaism is choosing virtue of one's own free will. While we may disagree on specifics of doctrine, the essence of Christianity is very similar. So I guess what I am saying is that Christianity is essentially a vehicle for bringing the lessons of Judaism to non-Jews, which accords with its historical development.


73 posted on 06/23/2004 11:44:37 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: Lady Heron

And if they target your children, as happens to us, would you continue to be indifferent to it?


74 posted on 06/23/2004 11:45:26 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: A. Pole
Did Slobo really say what's in your tag line? I am always Slav sympathetic because though I am 100% Jewish I know I have a lot of Ukraine Slav in me via my mother who had blond hair, blue/green eyes.
75 posted on 06/23/2004 11:45:30 AM PDT by dennisw (http://www.prophetofdoom.net/)
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To: subterfuge

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=SBC+conversion+Jews

pick your favorite


76 posted on 06/23/2004 11:46:20 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: Mamzelle

If the alignment of Jews doesn't matter, why then this article?


77 posted on 06/23/2004 11:47:08 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: SJackson

Fixed. Thanks.


78 posted on 06/23/2004 11:48:18 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: dennisw

Yes, but when there is targeting of Jewish children the character of the relationship changes dramatically. Evangelicals don't confine themselves to adults only.


79 posted on 06/23/2004 11:48:23 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: cyborg

So was I ;)


80 posted on 06/23/2004 11:48:49 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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