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Unfairenheit 9/11
msn ^ | June 21,2004 | Christopher Hitchens

Posted on 06/21/2004 4:25:32 PM PDT by The Raven

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To: A Citizen Reporter; Nita Nupress; PhiKapMom; MizSterious; Carolinamom; Bahbah; Grampa Dave; ...

Another Berg/Moore ping for tonight!


41 posted on 06/21/2004 7:26:07 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Shermy
Bosnia and Kosovo would have been cleansed and annexed.

Kosovo has been cleansed. Of Serbs.

And, so far as annexation's concerned, it was always part of Serbia. Still is. Technically...

42 posted on 06/21/2004 7:28:00 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: AnnaZ
Thanks for the ping Anna.

Man, that was absolutely scathing. Let Lumpy chew on that for a while.

I'm sure he'll offer no substantive debate on any of the points Hitchens raises. He's simply not up to it.

43 posted on 06/21/2004 7:30:25 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Miss Marple

This is LONG, and exerpts do it absolutely no justice, because you can just feel the rage increasing with every word. Hitchens is a lefty, but he is one who will stand against those who are dishonest.


44 posted on 06/21/2004 7:35:47 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: The Raven

Wow. I have never seen such a through and complete debunking of a film...


45 posted on 06/21/2004 7:42:52 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: weegee

The closest we came to totalitarianism was our "peculiar institution." But then, it was called "peculiar" for a reason.


46 posted on 06/21/2004 7:43:21 PM PDT by Huck (Be nice to chubby rodents. You know, woodchucks, guinea pigs, beavers...)
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To: punster

Easy now. I think Moore is part of the movement to bring mentally handicapped people into the work force. You know, like the special olympics but they get paid.


47 posted on 06/21/2004 7:48:59 PM PDT by ChinaThreat
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To: Reagan Man
Like Rush said. Michael Moore is the modern day incarnation of Joseph Goebbels.

Except that Goebbels possessed human intelligence, while Moore tops out at animal cunning.

48 posted on 06/21/2004 7:49:01 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: The Raven

After all the Reagan slams, this article puts Hitch back on my good side.


49 posted on 06/21/2004 7:50:55 PM PDT by spodefly (This post meets the minimum daily requirements for cynicism and irony.)
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To: Jonah Johansen
I wish like David Horowitz he could make a clean break with left wing thinking.

Yep. The day will come when Hitchens finally comes clean with himself intellectually and admits that he belongs on the right. Camille Paglia too. It must be terribly hard, however, to realize that one was full of sh*t, and passionate about it, for many years...

50 posted on 06/21/2004 7:51:02 PM PDT by Jhensy
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To: The Raven
"To describe this film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that would never again rise above the excremental".

I love Hitchens twisted english poetics....this quote along with his infamous Goreasm: "No controlling renal authority"...aka the Ice Tea Defense...no PC BS...although it's all starting to sound very WC.

51 posted on 06/21/2004 7:53:35 PM PDT by Katya
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To: spodefly

Ditto!


52 posted on 06/21/2004 7:56:03 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Florida 2000: There Would Have Been No 5-4 Without A 7-2)
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To: Reagan Man
Jesus, but this was one of the more superb Fiskings of Moore that I have seen since Bowling was Fisked.

Hitch is unsparing. He may despise Ronald Reagan, but he has balls aplenty and is calling Moore on his narrative.

That's the key. You can assert that the Bush and al-Saud or bin Laden families had a connection and be right. You can say that too many people have died in the war. You can cite facts.

What Goebbels understood is how you string things together. That's Moore's schtick.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

53 posted on 06/21/2004 7:56:34 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: Howlin
Thanks, Howlin. Hitchens has reminded me of why I love to read him, even when I disagree with him. It seems, however, that he takes the left's failings so personally that it makes for his most powerful writing.
54 posted on 06/21/2004 7:59:37 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: section9

Yes, Hitch did a magnificent job of lambasting the fat turd. But I'll never forgive him for what he said about President Reagan. Forgiveness will have to come from a higher source then me.


55 posted on 06/21/2004 8:02:12 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Shermy

We'd better be careful:

""Any attempts to libel me will be met by force,"
Michael Moore says, anticipating attacks on his film."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1157091/posts


56 posted on 06/21/2004 8:08:31 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Reagan Man
Oh, I quite agree. My enthusiasm for Hitch is tempered by what he wrote about Reagan. He was simply, altogether wrong.

However, he was honest. Give him that much. Unlike the hypocrite Kerry who horned in to get his mug on the camera at Simi Valley.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

57 posted on 06/21/2004 8:08:33 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "Jesus is Coming. Everybody look busy...")
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To: Howlin

LAWSUITS THREATENED AGAINST THOSE WHO 'LIBEL' MOORE.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1157091/posts

Does that include all of us on this thread?


58 posted on 06/21/2004 8:22:51 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (WHAT DID MOORE KNOW ABOUT BERG AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?)
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To: section9

I wasn't refering to Hitch's column on Reagan. Although you're right, those remarks were mostly wrong. I was talking about his interview with Chris Matthews. Hitch showed how much of a meanspirited a-hole and shallow thinker he can be. Hitch`s rhetoric was tempered by a second guess Matthews had on. I believe it was Tony Blankley. Maybe.


59 posted on 06/21/2004 8:22:51 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: The Raven

I think I've read Hitchens before, and I rather like him. I don't agree with his politics at all, but on the basic issues, he's at least intellectually honest.


60 posted on 06/21/2004 8:26:56 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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