Really? Like at Tiananmen Square?
Posted on 06/21/2004 12:55:23 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
Good point. Would we be willing to risk the destruction of a dozen U.S. cities? We're not even willing to risk higher prices!
My, my, what the free traitors have created! I wonder who the Dragon will consume? And will the traitors admit their culpability when the blood of 30,000,000 Taiwanese coats their greedy little hands? Probably not, for it would require a measure of decency.
"Send boarding parties to capture the errant ships... "
Jeez. You're kidding I hope.
"China would last less than 15 without oil imports. "
The Chinese are in a much better position to move to a war/subsistance footing than are Americans.
No Walmart and there will be riots in America.
You've been reading Clancy, haven't you?
Take a look at his post number 89, in an FR thread.
"I didn't realize that Taiwan was the only place in the world to get those components."
While I agree with most of what you've said re: China, I do think that on the semiconductor front, we(during the Clinton years) have placed ourselves in a somewhat vunerable position.
When I was a brand new EE, I worked in weapons system design and we were NOT allowed to design in ANY electronic components that were from offshore.
Hell, even Motorola now has most of its semiconductor fabs in China.
I personally think this IS a real threat. One part you can't get can take down a whole weapons system.
Regards,
EEDUDE
You must believe that centralized economic planning really works. In reality, without oil, China's ability to distribute food crashes, followed by the ChiCom population. Kindly note that we also would not be exporting food to China in the event of a shooting war.
No Walmart and there will be riots in America.
You sound exactly like the Islamists who believed that destroying the World Trade Center would cause the infidels to surrender.
This is the United States, not France. Perhaps you may riot if there is no Wal-Mart; the rest of us will merely invoke Rule .308 on those foolish enough to riot.
As though they haven't tried that a few times over the last thousand years. Maybe the Chinese are hoping one of these days they'll finally get lucky with that country.
Yo, girly-man, it's pretty bad form to drag flame wars from thread to thread. Besides, crybaby, you got your way--I'd stay in America, after all, and engage in leaderless resistance against you and your fellow looters.
"the rest of us will merely invoke Rule .308 on those foolish enough to riot."
The reason the Chicomms will be able to deal with their people's deprivation. They have no .308.
As though they haven't tried that a few times over the last thousand years. Maybe the Chinese are hoping one of these days they'll finally get lucky with that country.
If that happens, I know some Vietnam vets who will send warm emails to Hanoi.
You are, of course, presuming that the ChiComs will be able to feed their own troops, or that there will be enough troops.
The PLA will be outnumbered approximately 1,000 to 1 by citizenry looking to eat them.
Hmm? Just reminding everyone of your words. Which is precisely what I told you I would do.
Besides, crybaby, you got your way--I'd stay in America, after all, and engage in leaderless resistance against you and your fellow looters.
Really? And I suppose that means the Government of the U.S. as well? Please, tell us more!
Its the *NEAR TERM* (the next three or four years) that i'm worried about... the recent oil spike was China starting to compete for the same oil we use. China is going to be very thirsty for oil in the next five years and that is probably what would trigger a war or an adventure...
why Taiwan? perhaps because they (think) they have a legitimate claim on it... will it do them any good? well, it will cause all their naval vessels to become artificial reefs and kill off all their excess male population (although that probably isn't what they had in mind)
Please provide me historical evidence where an unarmed populace overthrew a fully armed dictatorship during a time of war.
Its a matter of conditioning. The chicoms are hardly a generation removed from Mao. They don't have the moral capacity to resist being told what to do.
'Zactly. You should see the slack jawed, sh*tfaced looks I get when I explain to folks that the proceeds from the sale of goods made in China go directly to the Chinese military-industrial complex. They don't understand that part of the $5 they spent on a shower curtain at the Great Wal-Mart of China could very well go to buy a mortar shell to be dropped in the future on our guys. "But, but, but..." they stammer, "the Chinese are our friends, aren't they? That's what they say on CNN..."
Will our lust for cheap imported toasters, TVs, and shower curtains be our undoing?
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Really? Like at Tiananmen Square?
Russia, 1917 comes to mind.
Perhaps you can explain to me how China is going to be making all of these big strategic waves on the international scene AND have enough troops to keep the lid on at home.
The ENTIRE ChiCom army would be outnumbered 1,000-1 by starving peasants looking to cook Private ChiCom for dinner. (Hey, he's Atkins-friendly).
Note that much of the Army would be deployed to combat zones, leaving that much fewer troops available for domestic-head-busting.
And spoil the surprise for you? No, good sir. You and your ilk will merely have to take your chances with armed citizens seeking to resist tyranny...which is why I won't ever have to bother with the option, because folks like you are too crazy to get elected and too cowardly to risk a coup.
China needs to import massive quantities of oil as it is, and that situation will only get worse. We control the tap.
And an armored division without fuel is merely an expensive collection of oversized paperweights.
Perhaps you can explain to me how China is going to be making all of these big strategic waves on the international scene AND have enough troops to keep the lid on at home.
A 100 million man army.
Your entire scenario is based on a starving chinese population. I don't see it.
And what is killing millions of people to Communists?...its nothing, they do it before breakfast.
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