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Iran on the verge
RenewAmerica.com ^ | June 18, 2004 | Andy Obermann

Posted on 06/20/2004 12:31:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 06/20/2004 12:31:44 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: F14 Pilot; DoctorZIn; Ragtime Cowgirl; Grampa Dave; Dog; Cap Huff; Coop; Boot Hill

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2 posted on 06/20/2004 12:33:39 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Israel just last week got their KC-135 tankers, so they are ready for long range missions. I doubt they let Iran go nuclear. Makes no sense.
3 posted on 06/20/2004 12:37:38 PM PDT by snooker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Good to see our young adults paying attention to the world stage. Not all of them are glued to MTV.


4 posted on 06/20/2004 12:39:39 PM PDT by realpatriot (This tagline intentionally left blank, so quit reading it)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Consider the source of this criticism. It comes from a 21 year old college student.

Bush will deal with Iran more firmly than Kerry would. But Bush knows he must also get elected.

So in the end, the right thing gets done, but not just the precise way to suit a college history major.


5 posted on 06/20/2004 12:41:36 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sounds to me like it's time for another "Operation Diaper Change," this one in Iran. The BS must stop - one way or another.


6 posted on 06/20/2004 12:42:25 PM PDT by NCPAC ("Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: snooker

Same deal they did years ago, with Iraq's reactor? I think you're spot on.


7 posted on 06/20/2004 12:46:55 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• © • ™ • ® •)
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To: truth_seeker
Correct assessment.

Bush has to win this election. He can't come across as beligerent-period.

If Bush wins and Iran later refuses to cooperate with a Security Council resolution asking for compliance, the US will bomb.

8 posted on 06/20/2004 12:53:36 PM PDT by zarf
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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9 posted on 06/20/2004 1:18:52 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Whack 'em. Whack 'em good. Whack 'em real good.


10 posted on 06/20/2004 1:24:35 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: snooker; F14 Pilot

the F-15 E strike eagles can take the iranian facilities out without refuelling.

they were bought by israel to take the paki facilities out, but have been just rusting all these years. It's been so long that most the pilots who trained for the mission might be in wheel chairs as well.


Besides refuelling would never be a problem, they could use US airbases in iraq.


11 posted on 06/20/2004 1:25:34 PM PDT by jerrydavenport
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“the president knows any sanctions would not take hold until after the election”

“the president is taking a deadly gamble with national security”

“the alternative to Iran's current leadership is even more extreme”

“Any element of liberal reform in the country would be crushed by the predominance of extremist Islamic militants ”

How can one person be this terminally stupid?

“[Author] Andy Obermann is a 21-year-old college senior, attending a small private college in Missouri”

Oh, OK, now I see.

--Boot Hill

12 posted on 06/20/2004 2:15:00 PM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: snooker
Israel just last week got their KC-135 tankers, so they are ready for long range missions. I doubt they let Iran go nuclear.

Iran is much larger, further away, with more intelligent leadership and the element of surprise is gone. It is beyond Israel's reach.

13 posted on 06/20/2004 2:31:04 PM PDT by A. Pole ("When they start beheading your own people[...], then you will know what this is all about." - Slobo)
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"It is beyond Israel's reach."

I wouldn't bet on that.

When and if Israel decides that this is a risk they cannot tolerate, they will do WHATEVER they need to do to eliminate it, including preemptive tactical nuclear strikes.

Unlike many other pantywaist governments overly concerned about "world opinion", they know they are in a fight for their survival.

They are resourceful, dedicated, and talented people


14 posted on 06/20/2004 3:06:09 PM PDT by EEDUDE (Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: EEDUDE

They would do the world a favor!


15 posted on 06/20/2004 3:28:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: zarf
Bush has to win this election. He can't come across as beligerent-period.

He does not have to win. He is also continuing to show firmness. If that is belligerence, let him keep on.

16 posted on 06/20/2004 3:32:53 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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The kids at least looking for patterns. He just hasn't quite tied it all together yet.

Iranian oil has nothing to do with it. AFAIK, we don't use Iranian crude either directly or via middlemen.

Bush doesn't have anything at all to say regarding Iran....at this time.

BTW, it wasn't 4 battalions, the media translated it wrong.

Per DARPA:

London: Al-Sharq al-Awsat (Internet Version-WWW) in Arabic 15 Jun 04 [Unattributed Report: "Iran Deploys Four Military Divisions Near [Iraqi] Border"]

 

London, Al-Sharq al-Awsat -- Reliable Iraqi sources have revealed that Iran moved part of its regular military forces toward the Iraqi border in the southern sector and also
infiltrated numerous military intelligence elements into Iraqi territory.

 

The source told Al-Sharq al-Awsat that four Iranian Army divisions, including the Golden Division [al-firqah al-Dhahabiyah], are currently stationed near the Iraqi border in the
Al-Amarah and Al-Basrah sector and in the vicinity of Dezful in the Maysan sector and Shalamcheh in the Al-Basrah sector.

 

The source pointed out that the Iranians might plan to enter Iraqi territory if the US forces withdraw [from Iraq] in order to exploit the security vacuum that could occur there,
relying on their intelligence elements that have been infiltrated into Iraq since the overthrow of the former regime over a year ago.


http://tides.carebridge.org/TIRR/D-TIRR229.htm



17 posted on 06/20/2004 7:55:02 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You bet. But which project is first, Saddam's nerve gas in Syria (the ennouncement will get ally G.W. re-elected) or the Iranian "alternative energy supply" (sarcasm).


18 posted on 06/20/2004 11:14:05 PM PDT by jschwartz
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To: EEDUDE
They are resourceful, dedicated, and talented people

But to be talented includes the ability to recognise what is possible and what is not. BTW, Jewish people failed in that aspect a number of crucial times - one was the uprisings against Romans.

19 posted on 06/21/2004 5:24:03 AM PDT by A. Pole ("When they start beheading your own people[...], then you will know what this is all about." - Slobo)
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