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FIRST, THEY CAME FOR THE TRUTH (Fr. Martin Niemoeller was a phony)
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| 17 June 2004
| Michael Shaw
Posted on 06/18/2004 12:59:32 PM PDT by mrustow
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If this guy is right, another craven image was just smashed. (Granted, the writer is a Catholic, so he is generally fond of craven images ...)
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posted on
06/18/2004 12:59:33 PM PDT
by
mrustow
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:04:02 PM PDT
by
mrustow
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:05:10 PM PDT
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mrustow
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Quote flagged for bigotry:(Granted, the writer is a Catholic, so he is generally fond of craven images ...)
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:05:15 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Ronald Reagan: 1015 electoral votes.)
To: mrustow
Did you mean to say "graven", or are you bashing catholics with your clever little word play?
I'm not catholic myself, mind you, and as a Bapstist I know they are all going to burn in Hell, but still, we can still be nice and not bash 'em, ya know?
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:08:37 PM PDT
by
Chad Fairbanks
(Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.)
To: Petronski
Oh, please. Petronski, of all people! Take your irony supplement!
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:09:46 PM PDT
by
mrustow
To: Chad Fairbanks
I'm not catholic myself, mind you, and as a Bapstist I know they are all going to burn in Hell, but still, we can still be nice and not bash 'em, ya know? Man, I just love an ecumenical Baptist...you got me all teary eyed by your standing up for us Papists there ;-)
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:11:19 PM PDT
by
Polycarp IV
(PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
To: mrustow
While I don't remember exactly where I heard the purported quotation, I am quite sure I heard it in the later '60s or early '70s.
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:11:33 PM PDT
by
CatoRenasci
(Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
To: mrustow
Oh, Lord, not another one of those "Niemöller wasn't really perfect" stories.
Look, nobody is perfect.
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:12:59 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: Chad Fairbanks
Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus!
To: mrustow
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:13:03 PM PDT
by
dennisw
("Allah FUBAR!")
To: mrustow
Checked my gear: my sarcasmeter jammed. Irony supplements forthcoming.
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:13:06 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Ronald Reagan: 1015 electoral votes.)
To: Polycarp IV
Well, ya know, I figure I better speak up for the catholics now (even if ya all are heathens - just kidding) because if I don't, then someday...
... there may be no one to speak up for me...
;0)
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:13:16 PM PDT
by
Chad Fairbanks
(Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.)
To: vanmorrison
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:15:08 PM PDT
by
Chad Fairbanks
(Welfare's purpose should be to eliminate, as far as possible, the need for its own existence.)
To: Chad Fairbanks; Petronski
Did you mean to say "graven", or are you bashing catholics with your clever little word play? I'm not catholic myself, mind you, and as a Bapstist I know they are all going to burn in Hell, but still, we can still be nice and not bash 'em, ya know?
Graven?! I'm more clever than I even knew. Someone must've been talking on the side of my bad ear. Now you see what kind of Christian I am! (As in, not.)
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:15:37 PM PDT
by
mrustow
To: mrustow
Hey, that's "graven". Insult us correctly, please.
To: mrustow
"First they came for the communists and I did not speak out because I was not a communist."
Actually, that isn't a bad idea, seeing how communists were the biggest butchers in human history. I propose a revision!
"First they came for the mass murderers, and I did not speak out because I was not a mass murderer."
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:18:04 PM PDT
by
mrustow
To: Chad Fairbanks
So many heretics, so little firewood.
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posted on
06/18/2004 1:19:03 PM PDT
by
nina0113
To: mrustow
this author is so far off base he's not even on the ball diamond. So Niemoeller volunteered to serve in the German Army in 39. That's interesting as he was thrown in prison on July 1, 1937 (the sixth time he had been arrested for preaching fiery sermons against the Nazis) where he remained for the next 7 years. He was finally transferred to a concentration camp and later to northern Italy where he was to be executed within 3 days of the Allies liberation.
Niemoeller publicly confronted Hitler before his arrest and by the time of his liberation was tubercular and nearly dead. And the above mentioned quote was written by his wife and delivered by Niemoeller before Congress in 1967.
This author is simply attempting to smear a brave German pastor.
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