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MAMMACTIVISTS KILLING THE MAMMOGRAM
CodeBlueBlog ^ | Thomas Boyle, M.D

Posted on 06/16/2004 10:22:11 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember

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To: Xenalyte

Good girl!


41 posted on 06/17/2004 1:19:14 PM PDT by najida (Who said I could spell? My fingers are faster than my brain.)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Thanks!
I appreciate the links.


42 posted on 06/17/2004 1:20:28 PM PDT by najida (Who said I could spell? My fingers are faster than my brain.)
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To: freeangel

As a radiologist I can tell you that $15 professional fee for a screening mammogram sounds about right. It will vary state to state and insurer to insurer of course.


43 posted on 06/17/2004 1:21:09 PM PDT by The Good Doctor
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To: The Good Doctor

"Women who are nulliparous or who have children later in life(and thus lactate later)have an increased risk of developing breast cancer."

I'm having trouble finding references on this, Doc. Do you know where any data can be found?


44 posted on 06/17/2004 1:22:34 PM PDT by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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To: freeangel

India.

Example: http://www.enterblog.com/200302190355.html


45 posted on 06/17/2004 1:24:07 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Judith Anne
Unless I have a lump, I don't have a mamm.

On routing screening we are mostly looking for microcalcifications which are an indicator of carcinoma in situ (noninvasive cancer) that can be cured with resection. You can't feel these changes on exam. If you wait until you feel a lump its too late, it will be invasive disease.

46 posted on 06/17/2004 1:26:47 PM PDT by The Good Doctor
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To: Judith Anne
True. But a family history is a good indication for an annual mamm over a certain age, to the best of my knowledge. As I indicated, I am a nurse, not a doctor. I don't have an annual mamm, by my own choice. Unless I have a lump, I don't have a mamm.

The whole point of a mammogram is to detect cancer that is too small, or too deep, to feel. If a cancer is found and treated before it becomes palpable than the likelihood of cure increases. If you can feel a cancer than it's already big.

47 posted on 06/17/2004 1:32:06 PM PDT by jalisco555 ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W. B. Yeats)
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To: The Good Doctor

Once again you are of course correct. I have simply decided that I am not going to have mammograms unless I have a lump.

I've been through the whole thing three times, and three times it has been non-cancerous.

You may well save someone's life by your post, and I commend you for putting the information here.

But I, personally, am not going to have any more mammograms unless I have a lump.


48 posted on 06/17/2004 1:33:20 PM PDT by Judith Anne ("The convictions that shaped the president began to shape the times..." President G.W. Bush)
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To: The Good Doctor
As a radiologist I can tell you that $15 professional fee for a screening mammogram sounds about right. It will vary state to state and insurer to insurer of course.

As a pathologist the same of true for reading a Pap smear. With the same litigation risk. It's another life-saving test that's under attack from the same people as the mammogram.

49 posted on 06/17/2004 1:36:19 PM PDT by jalisco555 ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." W. B. Yeats)
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To: walford

Here is a quick one. There are many others. I just googled "nulliparous breast cancer" to get a list.

http://www.postgradmed.com/issues/1999/05_15_99/vogel.htm


50 posted on 06/17/2004 1:47:18 PM PDT by The Good Doctor
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To: Xenalyte
Nor do I. If they can't send me to someplace than manually lowers the thing, I won't go. They can find another procedure that does not induce a level of pain that would cause a person to black out. I have a high tolerance for pain, but that was way beyond what I can cope with. I take only max strength tylenol after major surgery as I only puke uncontrolably with narcotic pain meds.

No routine procedure should induce more than very mild discomfort. Pain is an indicator some thing is wrong.

51 posted on 06/17/2004 1:47:36 PM PDT by GailA (hanoi john kerry, I'm for the death penalty, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: GailA
Just when you think they can't possibly make your poor boob any flatter, that's when they really put the hammer down. It's not only damned uncomfortable, it's horrifying to see.

I wish someone had had the courtesy to tell me not to look, because it took a long time to get that image out of my head. Whenever I come across someone who's going for their first mammogram, I tell them to look somewhere else, anywhere but down...

52 posted on 06/17/2004 1:52:21 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: najida
More like they put the 'family jewels' in a vise and start turning the crank, all while in a freezer.

Guys we are very serious about the pain being inflicted on us. It is not a joke, we are not weak kneed...after all most of us have birthe babies. Don't know about others I've had 4, 2 natural, 2 C section, strongest pain med I had was tylenol. My second beat the doc. Had full labor with the first C section.

53 posted on 06/17/2004 1:53:45 PM PDT by GailA (hanoi john kerry, I'm for the death penalty, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Xenalyte
I do not put up with pain during routine procedures.

Pain is so subjective that the best you can do is to give it a try and see how it feels. The one mammogram I had was uncomfortable, but I wouldn't describe it as painful. Others' experiences are different.

You could always ask your doc about breast thermograghy in lieu of a mammogram.

54 posted on 06/17/2004 2:01:23 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: hellinahandcart
Looking didn't bother me, just the dratted pain. Nature blessed me very well and it makes it even harder for them to use their boob smasher.
55 posted on 06/17/2004 2:01:24 PM PDT by GailA (hanoi john kerry, I'm for the death penalty, before I impose a moratorium on it.)
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To: Xenalyte
I told him that if it had any pain at all associated with it, he'd best find another way to diagnose me.

I had an endometrial biospy once in my gyno's office. He had told me it wouldn't be too painful (that "No nerve endings in the uterus" bullcrap again), so he and the nurse were truly shocked at the way I screamed during the procedure. They were both white as sheets when it was over. I heard the doctor saying to her under his breath that he hoped he'd managed to get a big enough sample during the ordeal, as he didn't want to have to do it again, and I said "I hope so too, because we are NEVER going to do that again!"

That's when he told me that many doctors felt that women should get one of these done every year.

It cost seven hundred dollars, too, and that was years ago.

56 posted on 06/17/2004 2:05:14 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: hellinahandcart
A biopsy with no anesthetic? Hell, I won't let the dental hygienist clean my teeth without nitrous. I would have kicked that gyno in the head!

I voluntarily accept pain only if it will save me far larger pain in the near future.
57 posted on 06/17/2004 2:07:49 PM PDT by Xenalyte (This dog bite me.)
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To: GailA
boob smasher

LOL

Is it just me, or did anyone else's boobs suffer permanent damage in the "perkiness" department afterward?

58 posted on 06/17/2004 2:10:05 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: The Good Doctor

Thanks for the ref, Doc. Apparently, rather than there being a biological penalty for [age-appropriate] childbirth, there is one for NOT doing so, at least insofar as breast cancer is concerned.

There are still questions concerning association between pregnancy/childbirth and uterine cancers or osteoporosis, but I have imposed upon you enough.


59 posted on 06/17/2004 2:11:21 PM PDT by walford (http://utopia-unmasked.us)
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To: Xenalyte

I've had two emergency D & C's in the same gyno's office with no anaesthetic. My choice. It sucked, but otherwise I would have had to go to the hospital and been put under, been out of comission for a day, had to find someone to take care of the cats, etc.

So he probably thought I could handle it, based on our previous experiences. I was the one who basically said let's get it over with, gimme a bullet to bite on or something. :D I had no idea it would hurt so much more (orders of magnitude more) than the D & C. I don't think he did either.

But doctors do tend to play down the pain alot. I hate hearing "you're going to feel some pressure now" or "you're going to feel a pinch", what lies...


60 posted on 06/17/2004 2:19:32 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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