House panel approves gun bill for officers

Washington Times ^ | 6/17/04 | Brian A. DeBose

[Mulder]

May be hope for KS even though Gov. is anti-RKBA. Also a RINO problem there as well

Kansas passed a CCW bill several years ago, but the RINO governor vetoed it.

[Redbob]

Dan:
I'm against this for the reason you mention - what's so special about retired police officers? - AND because it undermines federalism, the principle that the federal government should not infringe upon the police powers of the states without some compelling reason.

If a state won't trust ME with a concealed weapon for my defense, why should a former cop be allowed the means of defending himself and his family?

OTOH, if Maxine Waters is against it, I'm inclined to say it's a good idea, no matter what it is!

[Redbob]

"Look at the map of states that did not permit CCW from 5,10,15 years ago. Now look at it today. That's not progress?"

You're absolutely right, but what does that have to do with creating yet another class of special privileges for cops?
Remember, 9 times out of 10 it was these sames cops who prominently OPPOSED extending the right to concealed carry to the private citizens.

They didn't want us to have this right; why should we give it them, completely unsupervised and with no requirement that THEY re-test and renew every couple years?

Yeah, I know some cops are very well-trained and proficient in the use of their weapons; very many are not, however.

[Redbob]

"...this is moving the ball forward for National Reciprocity."

National reciprocity for the elite, that is!

This law, if passed (and I'm contacting my senators today to oppose it) would do NOTHING for the rest of us.

[donozark]

You're "9 out of 10" figure is incorrect. While the IACP opposed CCW, the individual cop on the street did not. At least not to that degree. In fact, in this area, Sheriffs and individual officers were big proponents of CCW.

Cops are already in a "class by themselves." They can enter buildings armed that citizens with CCW cannot. Sky Marshals carry weapons on board planes. Some pilots do, even though not sworn officers.

I look at this program as a first step. And a baby step at that. Must it must be taken. National Reciprocity is still years away. But it is coming. Anyone doubting this can simply refer to the maps...The pendulum has swung. In our direction for a change.