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New York Daily News ^ | June 15, 2004 | Zev Chafets

Posted on 06/16/2004 10:18:55 AM PDT by pctech

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To: Dr. Frank fan
It's not my problem if you don't understand what's relevant to what you're talking about and what's not.

Wow! That makes me feel so warm and fuzzy all over. I mean... I just love to have people misunderstand my posts on purpose and then school me on my faults. I really don't know how I got along without you for so long...

what I said was completely relevant

That's your opinion only... sorry if I disagree with you and especially sorry that it seems to upset you so much.

why did you argue?

Who's arguing with you for crying out loud... I am disagreeing with you on one central point. You seem to think the President has painted himself into some predicament because he hasn't been able to articulate himself well... I am saying that even though the President isn't the world's greatest communicator he has not done that...

Why the h**l do you come to Free Republic?

Because I like to be talked down to by blowhards like you..why do you come to Free Republic? So you can pontificate and advance your opinions and lecture those who don't think you are correct?

tell people to Shut up if they do?

Have I told you to shut up? No...of course not... (and you know I haven't)

If what I did was (as you now seem to be acknowledging) add a relevant comment, how can that be "changing the subject"?

This is too much... if you really believe this last comment, then you have a serious problem... that won't be solved by hectoring me...

I'm going to do you a big favor... I'm going to give you the last word... because being right at all cost seems to be very important to you.

101 posted on 06/17/2004 8:59:45 AM PDT by carton253 (Re: The Reagan Presidency: Not bad. Not bad at all.)
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To: joesbucks

Today, on the noon news, the President said (in very strong terms) that there was a link between Al Qaida and Iraq. This was in response to the 9/11 Commission stating that there was not a link...


102 posted on 06/17/2004 9:03:23 AM PDT by carton253 (Re: The Reagan Presidency: Not bad. Not bad at all.)
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To: carton253
I just love to have people misunderstand my posts on purpose and then school me on my faults.

I did not misunderstand your post, and if you think that I did, you are wrong.

[what I said was completely relevant] That's your opinion only... sorry if I disagree with you

Here's the funny part, whether you agree what I said was relevant seems to vary from time to time. Here's you way back at the beginning of Post #97: "you jumped into the middle of a conversation and changed the subject." But later in Post #97: "I didn't say that it's irrelevant." Here's you now (Post #101 in response to "completely relevant"): "I disagree". Let me know if/when you make up your mind.

and especially sorry that it seems to upset you so much.

Wow, who's upset? I'm more bemused than anything else at this point. :-)

Who's arguing with you for crying out loud... I am disagreeing with you on one central point.

Perhaps you ought to look up the word "argue" in the dictionary.

You seem to think the President has painted himself into some predicament because he hasn't been able to articulate himself well...

Yes, that is a fair summary of my point.

I am saying that even though the President isn't the world's greatest communicator he has not done that...

In other words, you're arguing. Which is fine. We have a difference of opinion then. What's the problem?

why do you come to Free Republic? So you can pontificate and advance your opinions and lecture those who don't think you are correct?

No, so that I can discuss current events. This indeed will involve advancing my opinions but until now it had never involved having someone chastise me for advancing my opinions because they, despite participating in a discussion forum, did not want to hear any contrary opinions.

Have I told you to shut up? No...of course not... (and you know I haven't)

You're right, you didn't use those words. It was a paraphrase not a quote. cf. lack of quotation marks.

[I said: saying something relevant is not "changing the subject"] This is too much... if you really believe this last comment, then you have a serious problem...

Again: Saying something relevant is not "changing the subject". I'm flabbergasted that you think it is. If I say X and X is relevant then it's part of "the subject". There is no other definition of "relevant" than "part of the subject". Relevant = part of the subject. If something is part of the subject, it is relevant; if it were not part of the subject, it would be irrelevant; a thing can't be both relevant and not part of the subject, at the same time. There's only so many ways I can explain this.

I'm going to do you a big favor... I'm going to give you the last word...

Ok. Bye-bye.

103 posted on 06/17/2004 11:14:35 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: My2Cents
A frighteningly large percentage of people would rather believe the worst about Pres. Bush -- please don't confuse them with the facts.

I respect what you are saying as well, but I don't agree with this. I don't believe that a frighteningly large percentage of people would rather believe the worst about President Bush...again, I'm willing to give the American people far more credit for being able to know the truth.

104 posted on 06/17/2004 11:27:58 AM PDT by carton253 (Re: The Reagan Presidency: Not bad. Not bad at all.)
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