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Organic Food Has 'Significantly Higher' Contamination, Study Finds
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 6/14/04 | Marc Morano

Posted on 06/14/2004 3:41:40 AM PDT by kattracks

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1 posted on 06/14/2004 3:41:41 AM PDT by kattracks
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Avery also believes that the driving force behind organic produce, the fear of chemical pesticides, is completely unwarranted.

Well shoot, don't tell liberals, they would hate to lose something to fear. Fear is neccessary for their existance.

2 posted on 06/14/2004 3:49:00 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: farmfriend
The study looked at fruits and vegetables at the "preharvest" stage, not at the retail store level.
 
If you're dumb enough to eat food straight out of the bed, without washing it, you've got what's coming to you.  Even if you bought it retail, you're not going to wash it first???  You don't know what kind of freak might have been grubbing through that display before you, or it could still have the germs from some hepatitis carrying, filthy, mexican field worker.
 
This "Study" is just a blatant attempt to smear organic agriculture.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

3 posted on 06/14/2004 4:21:08 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (Meat, it's what you're made of.)
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The United Kingdom’s Food Standards Agency, a government food safety watchdog, initiated a nationwide recall of organic oatmeal after every sample tested showed high levels of a natural cancer-causing toxin.

That’s a 100% failure rate, said Alex Avery, plant physiologist and Director of Research at the Hudson Institute's Center for Global Food Issues in Churchville, Virginia, USA.

The organic cornmeal products contained high levels of fumonisin, a cancer-causing fungal toxin produced by a natural mold that can grow on corn in the field. Recently, the European Commission established a new safety limit for fumonisin in foods of 500 parts per billion (ppb).

Horrorfied organic food adherents discovered that their favorite cornmeal munchies were contaminated at an average of nearly 20 times the EC safety limit (9,000 ppb), with two brands having more than 30 times the safety limit (16,300+ ppb). In comparison, twenty non-organic cornmeal products tested by the FSA averaged only 130 ppb fumonisin.

GM insect-resistant corn has been shown to have 30-40 fold lower fumonisin levels than conventional corn, let alone in comparison to the higher fumonisin levels found in organic corn, said Avery.

Fumonisins may contribute to liver and kidney disease. Fumonisins are suspected to be a cause of liver and esophageal cancer in developing countries, where organic farming methods are the norm.

One can only imagine the uproar from the organic food and anti-bio-tech crowd if GM foods had totally failed a serious food safety standard by such a huge margin, instead of organic products. The mainstream “media” has been silent.

For years organic activists have claimed, without evidence, that "organic" methods were better for the environment and produced safer, healthier food. In fact, said Avery, the Soil Association buried its own research from the 1960s that failed to show any nutrition or health superiority of organic foods.


4 posted on 06/14/2004 5:08:30 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: Always Right

Why worry, it is only natural bacteria they can not be harmful. They are only producing organic toxins, and not chemicals like the ones produced and tested on animals by profit-seeking companies.

Pay more for organic food as it is more expensive to produce, say no to technology and development.






5 posted on 06/14/2004 5:15:03 AM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Owl_Eagle
This "Study" is just a blatant attempt to smear organic agriculture

It's really not. Each year over 5000 people are treated for E Coli poisoning that is directly atributed to the manure use on organic food.

There are exactly ZERO cases of poisoning from the chemicals used on food that is mass produced.

Do the math, make an educated choice.

6 posted on 06/14/2004 5:34:07 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: kattracks

I'm under the impression that if manure is properly composted, it shouldn't contain much bacteria at all. Fresh manure, on the other hand, is likely to contain all sorts of stuff. Hence, only aged, composted manure should be used.

Unfortunately, rather than have the desired effect of making liberals "back off" the technically liberated farmer, this may play into the hands of the liberals once again. Already, farmers are being sued for using manure as fertilizer, because liberals have claimed it is "noxious" and "unsanitary". Farmers are being shut down because their cattle are "polluting" streams and the atmosphere with "methane".

The reason? ANY farming practice, to environmentalists, is bad practice; in the name of "environmentally safe practice", they are intent on shutting down all food production by the "common man". There ideal world is one where all farm production is large-scale, and all people live in "urban corridors". This can only be done if the small farmers and rural people are regulated out of existence... and a BIG part of that cleansing includes the regulation of manure and animals as "polluters".

Be careful what you celebrate, folks. In this case, what you consider to be helpful today will be used to put small farmers out of business tomorrow...


7 posted on 06/14/2004 5:55:35 AM PDT by dandelion
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To: kattracks

A good friend of mine runs county health department. "organic" and "natural" foods have been a major source of trouble for them.


8 posted on 06/14/2004 5:57:33 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Death before dishonor, open bar after 6:00)
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To: kattracks

Reminds me of when I went to a bar in the DC area. Young guy, mid 20's, smoking a cigar and drinking whiskey found out that my friend and I were from the midwest and thought we should be experts on food quality. He really wondered if he should be eating organic food.

First off, being in he 20's he should have still felt he was indestructable (I wondered what propaganda he was getting). Second, the whiskey and cigars were probably doing him more harm than any food he was eating(but that didn't register with him). Third, just because I was from the midwest, he thought I was an expert on food.

The most amazing part to me was that in my 20's I felt indestructable and food was the least of my concerns.

Folks, organic food is a choice NOT A RELIGION. It has pros and cons. If people want to pay higher prices for it, let them. Personally, I don't think it is worth the extra cost. We will spend extra money for quality food, but organic doesn't always mean quality.


9 posted on 06/14/2004 6:04:18 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Puppage
There are exactly ZERO cases of poisoning from the chemicals used on food that is mass produced.
 
That's actually not true.  People are poisoned all the time by not washing insecticides off produce before eating them.  It's just that the amounts ingested are almost never enough to cause a fatality. 
 
Also, we really don't know what happens, long term, in our bodies when the numerous chemical inputs we use in agriculture are present in different combinations with different genetic susceptibilities.  Could be nothing, could be the start of cancer, we just don't know.
 
Either way, if you just wash produce off before you eat it, e coli and insecticides aren't an issue for the consumer.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

10 posted on 06/14/2004 6:16:27 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (Meat, it's what you're made of.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I don't know that it's a smear. I think it's like a lot of articles, restating the obvious: wash your food. But perhaps you should wash it more carefully if it's labeled "organic." Bear in mind, people from some countries consider human waste perfectly fine for fertilizer. When they come to this country, they bring their gardening practices with them. Technically, it would be organic, but dangerous (in my opinion) to eat.


11 posted on 06/14/2004 6:16:54 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Owl_Eagle
e coli and insecticides aren't an issue for the consumer.

Tell that to the ER Doctors. Besides, the people who say organic food is good for you are SURPRIZE! The Organic Farmers Assoc. Hey, people are free to do as the choose, I choose to save money by not buying organic. You're right though....wash first. Have a good day Owl.

Pete

12 posted on 06/14/2004 6:21:06 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Also, there is no way of guaranteeing that those expensive veggies are actually organic. There are laws, yes, but inspections and enforcement are low on the state to-do lists.


13 posted on 06/14/2004 6:25:21 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Agreed. The popularity of organic food rises every year. The traditional farmer and the food processors who have much to lose are funding studies like these. I'm not buying it. Sadly, big food processors are buying up small organic companies and changing their landscape. They feel the fear and move to squash the rolling tide.


14 posted on 06/14/2004 6:26:26 AM PDT by sarasota
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Ah..no wonder those organic tomatoes I bought tasted like sh_t!


15 posted on 06/14/2004 6:27:20 AM PDT by Rebelbase (AKA gassybrowneyedbum)
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To: MizSterious
I don't know that it's a smear. I think it's like a lot of articles, restating the obvious: wash your food. But perhaps you should wash it more carefully if it's labeled "organic." Bear in mind, people from some countries consider human waste perfectly fine for fertilizer. When they come to this country, they bring their gardening practices with them. Technically, it would be organic, but dangerous (in my opinion) to eat.

It may be dangerous to eat for some people. You read about people getting deathly ill from e. coli from a burger that got a a drive-thru. You never hear about anyone that works on a cattle or dairy farm getting sick from it, and they're exposed to it every day. The reason it's dangerous is that some people have gone overboard "sanitizing" everything, and running to the doctor for antibiotics at the first sign of infection. The end result is they've crippled their own immune systems from disuse.

16 posted on 06/14/2004 6:27:30 AM PDT by tacticalogic (I Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: kattracks
Don't eat-stay healthy.
17 posted on 06/14/2004 6:31:13 AM PDT by CaptainK
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To: kattracks

Wash those vegetables. It seems the simple lessons taught thru the years by our parents concerning safe food handling and cleanliness are being ignored to create a market for "organic" or "natural" customers. Seems there is a sucker born every day now.


18 posted on 06/14/2004 6:33:30 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Time to defoliate the victory garden again - George Leroy Tirebiter LLC)
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To: tacticalogic

More likely, it's because of an impaired immune system. Sadly, people with chronic conditions (which impair immune systems) are the ones who usually flock to the "organic" food counters, and they are the ones who are most at risk if they don't wash it carefully.

I don't buy the farmer comparison--you can walk through acres of cow manure, but I don't know of any farmer would actually EAT the stuff. We live on a farm--you clean it off your boots, and even then you don't wear the boots into the house. You leave them outside and change to regular shoes before you come into the house. I think the reason so few farmers get these diseases is because they (we) have more common sense.


19 posted on 06/14/2004 6:35:47 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: MizSterious

You don't intentionally eat it, but you still get it on your hands working. From there, it's just a matter of having an open cut, or rubbing your eyes, or touching the edge of a drinking cup or glass. You don't get a lot at once, but enough that your immune system learns how to recognize and stomp on it, and gets some practice on a regular basis.


20 posted on 06/14/2004 6:42:34 AM PDT by tacticalogic (I Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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