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Many Still Troubled by Reagan's Legacy (Angry Butt Pirates Alert Level Alpha)
AP Politics ^ | 6-9-04 | BETH FOUHY

Posted on 06/09/2004 10:50:47 AM PDT by Lance Romance

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To: Lance Romance

LIE #1: >>Marcus Conant lobbied the Reagan administration in 1982 to launch an emergency campaign to educate Americans about the disease. It took the president five more years to publicly mention the crisis.<<

TRUTH: Reagan spoke of AIDS no later than September 17, 1985. Responding to a question on AIDS research, the president said:

[I]ncluding what we have in the budget for '86, it will amount to over a half a billion dollars that we have provided for research on AIDS in addition to what I'm sure other medical groups are doing. And we have $100 million in the budget this year; it'll be 126 million next year. So, this is a top priority with us. Yes, there's no question about the seriousness of this and the need to find an answer.

LIE #2: << "Ronald Reagan (news - web sites) and his administration could have made a substantial difference, but for ideological reasons, political reasons, moral reasons, they didn't do it,"<<

TRUTH: From 1984 onward — and bear in mind that the AIDS virus was not identified until 1982 — every Reagan budget contained a large sum of money specifically earmarked for AIDS. During his time in office, his spent over $5.7 BILLION on AIDS research. The numbers ranged from $8 Million in 1982 increased to $2.3 BILLION in 1989.

LIES #3 and #4 <<By persuading Congress to approve sweeping tax cuts for the wealthy
while slashing welfare benefits and other social services like the federal housing assistance program, Reagan was blamed for a huge surge in the nation's poor and homeless population.<<

TRUTH: The wealthiest Americans did not pay less taxes; rather, they paid more taxes after the income tax RATE cuts in 1981. In constant dollars, the richest 10 percent of Americans paid $177 billion in federal income taxes in 1980 but paid $237 billion in 1988. The remaining 90 percent of households paid $5 billion less in income taxes over this period.

TRUTH: Expenditures for low-income assisted housing doubled between 1980 and 1984; it took until 1990 for 1980 GNP to double. Federal outlays for low-income housing thus increased as a percentage of GNP. With the dollar increases came increases in the number of beneficiaries — from 10.6 million people in 1980 to 14 million in 1990, an increase of almost one-third while the population increased by only one-tenth. The number of households assisted also increased, from 3.1 million in 1980 to 4.4 million in 1990.


21 posted on 06/09/2004 11:35:09 AM PDT by LibertyJihad
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To: RightWingAtheist

gross


22 posted on 06/09/2004 11:36:38 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: RightWingAtheist; Owl_Eagle; cyborg
Larry Kramer:

Thisssss is dithhhhhgusting! Why I'm so sick at thisssss moment that I feel like going out and snatching a dead heterosexual's liver. I have sixteen of them, you know. You wouldn't belieeeve how simple it is to get cadavers of straight men when you're as filthy rich as I am.

23 posted on 06/09/2004 11:50:26 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Bringin' a woman on board's a bad omen! Mark my words." "Consider them marked.")
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To: Lance Romance

I'm sorry. Which disease should Reagan have worked to cure, the AIDS or the fagitude?


24 posted on 06/09/2004 11:52:21 AM PDT by Tacis (,)
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To: Lance Romance
I remember back in the early days of the AIDS hysteria, when all the gay activists were beating the bandwagon that this wasn't "a gay disease", and that the time would come very soon when every household in America would have lost one or more friends or relatives to AIDS.

That was over 20 years ago. It just never happened. The horror stories all seem to come from the same subset of the population.

25 posted on 06/09/2004 11:53:08 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: Lance Romance
"Ronald Reagan really was a modern day Robin Hood in reverse — he stole from the poor and gave to the rich," said Michael Stoops...

geeze, Michael Stoops really is the modern day pig...

26 posted on 06/09/2004 11:54:32 AM PDT by martin gibson
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To: marajade

Reference your post # 18:

That is true but we can't have truth and facts getting in the way of the communists, socialists, and rump ranger's lies.


27 posted on 06/09/2004 11:56:42 AM PDT by sport (bttt)
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To: Jimmyclyde
Great analogy.

Though, It would probably be lost on the ignoramus who wrote this copy. Not to mention, all of the dumbkopfs who are in high dudgeon over Reagan's fiscal policies.

I seriously think that you need to be completely ignorant of the basic laws of economics in order to be hired to teach the subject at most major universities.

George Mason University is excluded for the purposes of this conversation however.

Walter Williams needs to school these fools.

28 posted on 06/09/2004 11:58:09 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ("Bringin' a woman on board's a bad omen! Mark my words." "Consider them marked.")
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To: Lance Romance
...said the San Francisco dermatologist, who now deals with a new generation of AIDS patients.

How can there be a new generation of AIDS patients when AIDS has been talked to death for decades now? If Reagan had spoken out, urged condom use, etc, it would have made no difference.

Many won't forget his administration's proposal to classify ketchup as a vegetable as a way of further reducing spending on federally subsidized school lunches.

Yet, all of the libs have conveniently forgotten that the Clinton adminstration named salsa as a veggy.

29 posted on 06/09/2004 11:58:13 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: Lance Romance; All
Check out the link on my comment #34. There's some profanity in it, but we all need to know about the Demons doing the demonizing.

click

30 posted on 06/09/2004 12:01:34 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. ©)
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong

hehehe


31 posted on 06/09/2004 12:05:19 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: bayourod
The people have known from the very beginning that AIDS is a gay disease

The first news items were the susceptible groups were Haemophiliacs, Hatians, Homos.

And, whatever happened to the term GRID (gay-related immunodeficiency disease)?
Oh that's right: "AIDS does not discriminate".

32 posted on 06/09/2004 5:23:31 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("Despise not the jester. Often he is the only one speaking the truth")
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