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Cigarette Smuggling Linked to Terrorism
Washington Post ^ | 06/08/2004 | Sari Horwitz

Posted on 06/08/2004 5:05:45 AM PDT by general_re

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To: cinFLA; Dead Corpse
More people have caught respiratory illnesses from other peoples exhalations than have ever even SNEEZED at a smokers cloud of carcinogens. Utilizing your logic, no one should ever exhale.

Smoking has been shown to increase the amount and severity of respiratory illnesses.

Off-topic. Has *secondhand* smoke been shown to increase the amount and severity of respiratory illnesses?

81 posted on 06/08/2004 10:12:44 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
Off-topic. Has *secondhand* smoke been shown to increase the amount and severity of respiratory illnesses?

Yes. It has also been shown to be linked to an increased risk in coronary deaths.

82 posted on 06/08/2004 10:13:50 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Dead Corpse
So there is no black market for illicit drugs? After all, the Feds havea nationwide prohibition on them.

I think if currently illicit drugs were legal and reasonably taxed, there would be no significant black market, just as there is no significant black market in the legal and reasonably taxed drug alcohol.

83 posted on 06/08/2004 10:16:29 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: cinFLA
Off-topic. Has *secondhand* smoke been shown to increase the amount and severity of respiratory illnesses?

Yes. It has also been shown to be linked to an increased risk in coronary deaths.

Please post the proof.

84 posted on 06/08/2004 10:19:07 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1146102/posts?page=884#884


85 posted on 06/08/2004 10:24:00 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Know your rights
just as there is no significant black market in the legal and reasonably taxed drug alcohol.

Please post your proof.

86 posted on 06/08/2004 10:24:49 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Know your rights
I think if currently illicit drugs were legal and reasonably taxed, there would be no significant black market, just as there is no significant black market in the legal and reasonably taxed drug alcohol.

I do believe you are correct. And reducing these illicit markets, government spending would be cut drastically and with reasonable taxation policies the government would be reaping far more than they are currently spending.

87 posted on 06/08/2004 10:25:32 AM PDT by Gabz (RIP President Ronald W. Reagan 1911-2004)
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To: Allegra
TERRISN!


88 posted on 06/08/2004 10:26:26 AM PDT by Xenalyte (It's not often you see Johnny Mathis in the wild.)
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To: Allegra
TERRISN!


89 posted on 06/08/2004 10:26:26 AM PDT by Xenalyte (It's not often you see Johnny Mathis in the wild.)
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To: cinFLA

"There were three of us in a workgroup with two offices. Then a fourth (a smoker) joined us. The junior guy got put in with the smoker and boy did he complain. He used to bring in portable air cleaners, etc."

*That's* your "proof" that secondhand smoke been shown to increase the amount and severity of respiratory illnessesand is linked to an increased risk in coronary deaths?!


90 posted on 06/08/2004 10:27:47 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: cinFLA
just as there is no significant black market in the legal and reasonably taxed drug alcohol.

Please post your proof.

My proof is the absence of evidence for such a market.

91 posted on 06/08/2004 10:30:12 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

No. Read the thread. It has a lenghty discussion of the UCLA study and the findings that SHS is related to an increased risk of coronary death.


92 posted on 06/08/2004 10:30:26 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Know your rights
My proof is the absence of evidence for such a market.

But you often tout that one cannot prove the absense of something. hmmm

93 posted on 06/08/2004 10:31:11 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
My proof is the absence of evidence for such a market.

But you often tout that one cannot prove the absense of something.

I don't think I've ever said that. Absence of evidence is not definitive proof of nonexistence, but it is evidence tending in that direction. For example, sane people believe that the absence of evidence for unicorns is a strong indication that they don't exist.

94 posted on 06/08/2004 10:35:15 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: cinFLA
Read the thread.

Learn to post links to threads, not individual posts.

It has a lenghty discussion of the UCLA study and the findings that SHS is related to an increased risk of coronary death.

From the thread:

As it is generally considered

That's not proof.

that exposure to environmental tobacco smoke is roughly equivalent to smoking one cigarette per day,4 we extrapolated the relative risk due to exposure to environmental tobacco smoke from the relative risks for smoking 1-9 cigarettes per day.

There's no direct evidence that a linear extrapolation is valid.

95 posted on 06/08/2004 10:44:21 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

That is not part of the UCLA study. The UCLA study considered only deaths in reaching a conclusion that SHS has an increased risk factor for coronary deaths.


96 posted on 06/08/2004 10:47:49 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
That is not part of the UCLA study.

Then point me to a specific post or quit wasting my time.

97 posted on 06/08/2004 10:55:31 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

It is a lengthy discussion with many posts. I gave you the thread, I will no do your homework.


98 posted on 06/08/2004 10:57:50 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
It is a lengthy discussion with many posts.

Yes, so it's *your* homework to prove that one of its many posts shows what you claim.

I gave you the thread, I will no do your homework.

99 posted on 06/08/2004 11:05:03 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: cinFLA
That is not part of the UCLA study.

The text I quoted, from a post by you, was from a UCLA study entitled "Environmental tobacco smoke and tobacco related mortality in a prospective study of Californians, 1960-98." If that's not the UCLA study you're talking about, what is?

100 posted on 06/08/2004 11:10:01 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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