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France Goes Vichy On Its Jews
netWMD - The War to Mobilize Democracy ^ | 6/3/2004 | Andrew Jaffee

Posted on 06/03/2004 1:00:03 PM PDT by stevejackson

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To: stevejackson
BTTT.

This country, France, is allowing Islam to do to it over decades what the Nazis did (and were repulsed by force for) in just weeks.

France will fall because it is allowing itself to fall.

21 posted on 06/03/2004 2:24:42 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP (McClintock - In Your Heart, You Know He's Right)
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To: First_Salute
Your Post # 16...Well Said!

Excellent Comment.

Now, "If" we could get those in our Government's Leadership to undertsand this as well...we'd All be in better shape.

22 posted on 06/03/2004 2:34:38 PM PDT by Simcha7 ((The Plumb - Line has been Drawn, T'shuvah/Return for The Kingdom of HaShem is at hand!))
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To: GrandEagle
From what I've heard the Muslems are in a majority in France now. make that al France
23 posted on 06/03/2004 2:51:42 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Petronski

Les Scum.


24 posted on 06/03/2004 3:07:34 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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To: stevejackson

France has, since 1940, always been Vichy..un pays de m*rde..


25 posted on 06/03/2004 5:36:37 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: First_Salute
At the risk of making an unqualified generalization, the Jewish "people" seem to have suicidal genes or something.

They always seem to support the very same things that almost killed them off in Nazi Germany - gun control, strong central governments, socialism, etc.

26 posted on 06/03/2004 7:12:42 PM PDT by snopercod (I'm a mean motor scooter and a bad go getter.)
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To: SF Republican
make that al France

Kinda like Al Qaeda, Al Jazeera, and Al Gore.
27 posted on 06/03/2004 7:54:33 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: snopercod; joanie-f
I don't think it's a "Jewish problem."

Instead, it is an attention problem, and it is more related to the mother, and there, to some extent for some individuals, it may be a "Jewish problem" more than for some other cultures, yet it is also a problem among other cultures; and we probably would find a few where they have a bigger problem with it.

It's going to vary. Some cultures are going to raise more attention-getters than other cultures.

The child who works overtime at getting attention, can make that their profession throughout the rest of their life, and going against the grain, is but one of many "platforms" upon which to stand for recognition "in the name of _____" (something else).

A friend of mine, daughter of Russian immigrants who are Jewish and psychologists (and a grandfather retired as a general from the Russian KGB), has in her case, much going against her. Clearly her parents love her, but their "pitchfork neuroses" --- the particular things about which they are anxious and constantly have worked her over with, in sharp contrast to their at other times not being there at all --- have bled her nearly to death on a couple occasions.

Then another friend, also Jewish, is just plain gorgeous and independent, and I have been very much in love with her yet powerless because she is getting married to another guy ... has a sibbling who cannot even bear to leave the home, that is, leave the mother's protection.

Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, their retinue, the A.C.L.U. attorneys and several more lawyers - and - their - stage - productions - before - the - bar ... are in it for the attention.

Bill Clinton especially, always has reminded me of some of the Clarence Darrows of the School Playground, that had an audience and learned very early to "stroke it." Girls were a bit more suceptible than boys. Some of such little lords of the social engagement, also managed to learn disdain or contempt for their audience, when discovering how easily manipulated they were and still are.

I do recall the parents of some, who fell for the political pitch; indeed, some parents were not only mezmerized, they were actually puffed up about it, "proud" of their kid's "progress" at being a leader of "socialization" (which term, there, is the modern rendition).

When I was a kid, your religion mattered not; in fact, there was a near reverence for your freedom to choose with which religion you would engage the Big Guy, if you chose a religion at all.

The only time religion came up, was when there was some surprise at how Catholics abandoned their principles and voted for Kennedy because he was a Catholic ... and their priests had "ordained" it, we were told.

While it never was an issue, how might Jews vote --- it was understood that they would vote for liberty, or so we were led to believe, given what they had been through. Since then, they, in general the "liberals" in America and also Jewish, are more holocaust deniers than those whom they have (usually quite correctly) accused, as evidenced by such Jews' submission to being owned by the Democrat Party Directorate that is more the headquarters of the needy (attention), than the needy (economic).

I think that David Horowitz might back me up on this one: the communist - and - Jewish - Americans are bitter about their being economically excluded, so to speak, from the --- to them --- obvious successes of their brethren, yet because they desire to be able to play the "Jewish race card" when it comes in handy, they blame everybody else for their economic misfortunes.

That does not mean that they are bad people or mean or they don't love their kids, but it does mean that they, as it is quite natural for almost anybody, will be frustrated at times, or for some, all their lives, at what they perceive to be the obstacles to the good fortune being kept beyond their reach by, again, their perceived obstacles (any alleged "the rich" or "the wealthy" or "special interests" will do).

That's not a "Jewish problem;" it's a human problem; while again, it may be more a "human problem" among Jews and other cultures than others.

I don't know the numbers, and actually, I don't worry about it, though I have wondered about it.

I tend to like people who have taken up the cause of liberty and will not give it up in the face of the power-lusting forces for un-limited government and such a government's agents. I have probably known more Jews like that, than not; if, I bothered to count them, but then again, I don't count them because I do not care about a person's race, creed, nor color.

I count them on the basis of their courage to stand up for liberty and its worthy foundations.

That, causes me to wonder why some Jews work so hard against liberty; they may be Jews by race, but not apparently by faith.

I am not sure that the Bible, the Old Testament, argues for living under a government by judiciary that is affected by those manipulating the public eye, in the name of satisfying the needs of the political moment, while actually doing so in pursuit of selfish enrichment, money, power, or both.

In American law, the system was set up to act slowly, so that time afforded deliberative opposition to short-term urges; but, that has frustrated the people who want what they want when they want it. So, they have been bending the rule of law, bending the laws, and generally promoting operations lost in extra-Constitutional space, to bring about for them, a judiciary that will respond to their more immediate demands.

They call it "progressive."

It is not progress; in fact, it is immature impatience and petulance, under the guise of various "liberal" law schools' agenda for socialist "change."

All that ignores the peril of, yet promotes the establishment of, un-limited government.

The only Jews that I have a problem with, are those who act effectively for the furtherance of such un-limited government and un-limited governance and un-limited governors and un-limited government agents --- the activities that evoke a correlation causing a person to state, that "socialism is a religion."

I do not think that we can create God on earth.

I do not think that we can replace God on earth.

I think that He very much has said some words to that effect.

Our task, when establishing government, is to limit government, so that it is always restrained from abuse of its power, because again, we cannot replace God on earth.

The leftist Jews think that they can, and they are trying, as usual, again, and so, history repeats itself, at the cost to many many people; but that, is not of much concern to the needy.

28 posted on 06/03/2004 8:49:45 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: First_Salute
Once again, a keeper.

I think the essence of what you are saying is that many people have a psychological need for approval from outside their own person. Certainly, one's childhood - the way one is raised - has an important role in shaping one's self-worth or lack of it.

Those who are lacking in that regard tend to seek out and join groups where they can find the sense of worth in the eyes of others that is lacking in their own minds.

I don't imagine that Jewish children are raised much differently than any other children. But telling a child from birth that he/she is a member of a group and that group is "chosen" by God can't foster independent thinking. It fosters fatalism - the philosophy which tells one that whatever happens is predestined.

We see the fruits of a similar fatalistic view of life in the rise of Islamic fascism.

29 posted on 06/04/2004 3:38:25 AM PDT by snopercod (I'm a mean motor scooter and a bad go getter.)
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